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109 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 13 Jul \ parent \ on: Chainalysis is built into Spark bitcoin bitcoin_beginners privacy
see all your transactions (isn't this true for many LSPs?)

No, Lightning works with a channel peer seeing the next hop along the route, not the destination

spark spies on you, but so does every other service

Key Point: Spark is a custodial service, not Lightning, so they should quit pretending otherwise.

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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 13 Jul

Agree with your key point, but at least a while ago I thought phoenix was using trampoline routing and that this made it so they could see all your destinations. But this was some time ago, so perhaps it is different now. I'll look into it.

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109 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 13 Jul

That raises a separate matter, the stupidity of mobile Lightning nodes, and how everything stupid in Lightning is a direct result of the mobile node fantasy.

By using Phoenix, you're also not getting the full benefit of justice transactions since your device is not always-on to publish them. It'd be trivial for the LSP to target infrequent peers for rugging.

Phoenix is Lightning with asterisks at best and shouldn't be considered when comparing Lightning to fake L2s because they share the same underlying thesis of stupidity.

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