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251 sats \ 14 replies \ @justin_shocknet 13 Jul -1000 sats \ parent \ on: Chainalysis is built into Spark bitcoin bitcoin_beginners privacy
see all your transactions (isn't this true for many LSPs?)

No, Lightning works with a channel peer seeing the next hop along the route, not the destination

spark spies on you, but so does every other service

Key Point: Spark is a custodial service, not Lightning, so they should quit pretending otherwise.

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7 sats \ 10 replies \ @tomlaies 20 Jul
No, Lightning works with a channel peer seeing the next hop along the route, not the destination

Is that already implemented? Or is that still in planning due to metadata during route finding.

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217 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 20 Jul

LN is 8 years old and you still didn't know about how it works?

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18 sats \ 2 replies \ @tomlaies 21 Jul

I know how this works. I literally reasearched HTLC in university before they even existed

I bet you dumb fuck haven't even calculated a DSA signature with pen and paper once in your life

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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 21 Jul -11 sats

STFU your brain is too injured from your covid jabs

17 sats \ 5 replies \ @justin_shocknet 20 Jul -420 sats

It's a core part of Lightning since inception.

The sender constructs the route, the middle hops only know the predecessor and successor, not the end destination. https://github.com/lightning/bolts/blob/master/04-onion-routing.md

24 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fenix 17 Jul

I think the whole misconception about Spark vs Ln vs Custodial was answered perfectly here and now by you and Ill refer it back when some clueless clain this kind of thing when Ill try to advise them.

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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 13 Jul

Agree with your key point, but at least a while ago I thought phoenix was using trampoline routing and that this made it so they could see all your destinations. But this was some time ago, so perhaps it is different now. I'll look into it.

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130 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 13 Jul -420 sats

That raises a separate matter, the stupidity of mobile Lightning nodes, and how everything stupid in Lightning is a direct result of the mobile node fantasy.

By using Phoenix, you're also not getting the full benefit of justice transactions since your device is not always-on to publish them. It'd be trivial for the LSP to target infrequent peers for rugging.

Phoenix is Lightning with asterisks at best and shouldn't be considered when comparing Lightning to fake L2s because they share the same underlying thesis of stupidity.