one regrettably common behavior I find all over online discussions these days is the presumption that any disagreement is either a debate, or an argument.

sometimes people can just shoot the shit without either one even needing to convince the other of something...

although yes, your general message of understanding the other side is an indispensible one, regardless of whether it is a formal debate or just a casual comparison of ideas that might not be contradictory although aren't identical.

persuasion is the profit ceded on your behalf when you understand first.

Yermin

I'm guessing you are in sales, possibly even B2B ?

in my business persuasion leads to profit   they are one and the same

I think you have understood the words incorrectly; "proceeds" usually is a plural noun, to describe the profits that are "ceded on your behalf" from some undertaking, whereas "precedes" literally means what you wanted, where "pre" means "before". meanwhile, "procedes" is a verb, although then it would mean going forwards past something, rather than specifically happening before it.

I actually spelled "precedes" wrong in my first comment; I don't think there's any currently-accepted word spelled "preceeds". English is a horrible mess.

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I think you have understood the words incorrectly; "proceeds" usually is a plural noun, to describe the profits that are "ceded on your behalf" from some undertaking, whereas "precedes" literally means what you wanted, where "pre" means "before". meanwhile, "procedes" is a verb, although then it would mean going forwards past something, rather than specifically happening before it.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/precede#Usage_notes
> Not to be confused with "procede"

I actually spelled "precedes" wrong in my first comment; I don't think there's any currently-accepted word spelled "preceeds". English is a horrible mess.