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Pools are not nearly as distributed, and the liquidity in them is largely whale recycling... and probably sybil'd as these things have a record of.

The overall amount in channels doesn't matter, because you're not leaving or entering one. You're passing through, the swap(s) out are just regular chain tx's.

It'd be moronic to send KYC exhange coin directly to join pool, that action alone gets extra scrutiny.

How many times do people have to get burned before everyone agrees these are stupid ideas? OXT and zkSNACKS have been the source of some of the biggest drama ever in Bitcoin because the very concept is fundamentally broken.

See other posts about the paradox of privacy:

#1221581
#1018656
#1253207
#1496777

Having an LSP opening a channel to you, withdrawing to lightning, then swapping out to cold storage leaves nothing to analyze assuming you don't yolo one-shot the same amount or recombine them later. (See links above how privacy is ultimately always a practice, and all privacy tools do is harm because they feed a lazy rube an excuse to not learn good practices)

2477 sats \ 5 replies \ @Kruw 25 Jul
Pools are not nearly as distributed

I figured out how to fix that completely: #1530076

and the liquidity in them is largely whale recycling.

...and Lightning liquidity flow isn't largely whale rebalancing?

.. and probably sybil'd as these things have a record of.

Please share.

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20 sats \ 4 replies \ @justin_shocknet 25 Jul -4420 sats
I figured out how

Sure. Someone has a new crypto gymnastics solution for privacy every week. Always noise, always shitfork justification cope for shitcoin-level expressiveness.

Ping me in a year if it has any legs then I'll consider reading it. That's filter 1.

Lightning liquidity flow isn't largely whale rebalancing?

Assuming you mean on chain and not circular routes off chain... That would be a privacy bonus in Lightning's case.

In a join pool, a whale recycling while you exit highlights your coin (especially when you left an on-chain footprint to enter in the first place).

A whale re-balancing back into or out of Lightning means that coin has already changed hands off-chain completely unlinked from the on-chain rebalancing operation, unlike a pool round.

Please share

https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/updated-psa-wasabi-wallet-is-the-target-of-ongoing-behavior-that-appears-to-be-a-sybil-attack-6674a322e187

Also vaguely recall some PlusToken thing, and Wasabi using chainanalysis to even let you enter the pool.

Also Scamourai itself logging xpubs lol

It's all rat poison.