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multilayered strategy

That strategy included:

  1. Teasers on discord
  2. It not leaking
  3. Then disclose to everyone outside of discord

for real?!?

PS: fuck the X maxis. Should not announce on <closed platform> so I have to go to <open platform> to find out. You should put it on <other closed platform> directly. Ostrich much?

126 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 27 Aug

I am confused by how Core Lightning approached this disclosure.

But I am more confused* by how calle and the "red team" has been going about things

*confused in the second usage here means: *it really looks like they are just trying to get a bunch of attention for people.

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It's easy to criticize from the sidelines, and I don't have the inside picture, so take anything I say below with a grain of salt:

  1. I somewhat understand the embargo. It's literally Google's "proven" strategy on Android. But were you as a user of CLN realizing you were using foss-as-in-Android-not-as-in-Linux?
  2. Any h4x0r with a bot is now statically analyzing CLN. So the embargo is pointless. This is basically the increasingly common sound you hear from groups like kernel-security "why are we even bothering with embargoes if the best thing we can do for a defender having a level playing field is being upfront about bugs?" i.e. we will likely move away from embargoes and into read-the-maillist-or-get-rekt. The thing that does need to change for this is bundling features with security-critical bugfix releases, and "we don't support previous versions" is the devil now. Backports are life-savers.
  3. Red team is doing some good things and bad things. Like all humans? It's good that someone is looking. I do think they have insufficient experience, on both ends of the security research process, to do this properly, based on the endless bragging and comms fuckups. But on the other hand, we may get a lot of pain at once. Cut out the cancers. Which is... 99% of the "ecosystem", especially those that grew fat on Jack / HRF monies. Good riddance.
  4. I think the real thing for @Scoresby & co to be happy about is that SN is delivering some value here and that people are bitching about that. GREAT! Let's make them bitch more often.
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