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I am happy to explicitly acknowledge that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained.
I stopped responding because we apparently disagree about what is honorable.
Saying that you caught someone trying to drain lightning wallets when all you did is see that they posted a tweet (which everyone else can also see) saying that lightning does not require leaves, even if the tweet implies that lightning does not need you to come online (which I don't think it does) is clearly not catching someone draining wallets.
Arguing about trade offs between Ark and Lightning is fine. Call each other all the names you like, but you lesson yourself when you try to twist it into "caught trying to drain lightning wallets."
they posted a tweet saying that lightning does not require leaves, even if the tweet implies that lightning does not need you to come online (which I don't think it does)
It's obvious the tweet claims that Lightning would allow your phone to sleep. What other possible interpretation could you extract from the statement?...
The tweet is not some exhaustive statement about lightning.
You took your own imference of it and then added that Justin was "caught trying to drain wallets"
This is a huge leap. If you think it is honorable to make such a leap, I don't know what else to say. I'm going to sleep.
I'll ask again:
What other possible interpretation could you extract from the statement?
Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.
But to me that isn't terribly relevant. In my book, it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.
A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.
Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.
Justin's commentary is directly about how Lightning works, read my proof again:
Lightning doesn't require leaves from a central coordinator that expire while the dum dum using it on a phone sleeps because they were too lazy/stupid to just run a lightning node
If a lightning user reads Justin's comment and follows his instructions to just run a lightning node on their sleeping phone, their funds will get drained.
it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.
Bro, the Tweet is a DIRECT QUOTE, there's absolutely nothing ambiguous about my evidence, it's a smoking gun. You already explicitly acknowledged that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained - #1569234
A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.
Really? Why else would he seek out my post to spread misinformation that would allow Lightning wallets to get drained? Is there some other interpretation of his statement you would like to share?
I misread the tweet, so you are right that it's about lightning. That still doesn't make it a smoking gun. Nor does it warrant the title you put on the post.
Again, I will reiterate: there is nowhere near enough grounds here to call him a scammer, no to merit the statement that you caught him trying to drain wallets.
I'm don't often agree with him nor do I have any reason to defend him, but it seems very clear to me that no one is draining any wallets here.
These kind of headlines serve no one and only help to make real scammers seem legitimate.
You already explicitly acknowledged that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained. Justin's post claims the exact opposite, which is what makes it a smoking gun.
Maybe you should ask Justin to delete his post so users don't have their Lightning wallets drained? If he's honest, he would have no issue doing so. If he's a scammer, he will leave it up and cause innocent Bitcoiners to lose their money.
Hello? @Scoresby ? You stopped replying instead of explicitly acknowledging that keeping your Lightning node online is what protects your wallet from being drained?...