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Yeah, there needs to be some way to have downzaps not count in the main feed.

But distinguishing between the downzaps that I WANT to take into account and the ones I don't - that's the hard part.

I'm not sure that ignoring "anon" downzaps is the answer. People will just create fake automated accounts. I've seen a lot of those already.

It's a tricky problem. Here's some ideas:

  • "take downzaps into account" for default feed is turned OFF. Allow people to turn on if they want.
  • Have a "Accept-downzaps-from" list. This would be similar to "follow" or "mute" but it would just take into account whether if the downzapper is on your list, when creating your default feed.

Could/should downzaps AND upzaps be public? Right now, from the point of view of me being censored - I'm thinking YES they should be public. But I'm sure there's also reasons on the other side, for preferring privacy.

Limiting the amount of downzapping anyine can do to the number of (up) zaps they have ever received would limit the ability of people to censor content.

If you have been a contributor of content and been (up) zapped for it that should entitle you to a greater ability to downzap content.

With rights come responsibilities.

Having never contributed any content of any value currently malign actors can come in and censor with no limit.

Downzapping is a valid mechanism but needs limits.

Identifying downzappers would be justified imo but will be blocked on grounds of privacy even though it's only a nym.

It would also require banning downzaps from anons- again a good idea.

Identifying upzaps would also be a good move imo but equally is unlikely to happen due again to the apparent preference to protect the privacy of nyms.

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Yeah, but since you can essentially create unlimited accounts, you could just create multiple accounts, and up zap yourself to whatever point you wanted, to fulfill whatever requirement is necessary.

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That would be fairly obvious and accrue a 30% tax wouldn't it?

Or can you zap yourself 100%?

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I don't know...would it really be that obvious? Upzaps and downzaps are not public now, right?

And a 30% tax...they'd laugh at that. There's millions spent every month on the propaganda purveyors. Content creators are paid insane amounts to downplay what they want to downplay, and vice versa.

I think some kind of reputation based system (like a "Accept downzaps from" list ) is the only way to make this not a completely financial thing. Like - who has the most sats can determine what's on the main feed.

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Yes the Zionist downzapper does seem to be very well funded.
We are discovering the potential problems with using money as a moderator- the rich can play on it.
Perhaps all we can do is tax it to some extent (by forcing the use of Sybil downzaps by limiting downzaps to upzaps), identify those downzapping- ie anons cannot downzap, and nyms are identified where they downzap?
We can also already identify the posts that have been downzap censored in the Stacker Saloon.
It seems like there may be no one simple and perfect solution- just ongoing war!

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