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No, it's fine easy "to rag on them" because they are immortal, cognitively deficient, and directly to blame for most of the problems you even outline in your comment. Yes, their inability to understand that makes it worse

And no, unlike the socialist restaurant — where the socialists frequenting it understand that they have to give something up for it to work, the boomers of today don't (largely speaking) understand.

And my point in there is precisely that "the boomers played the game (...as it lays)" isn't an acceptable excuse unless you also give up SS.
Hence the connection.

the average person was just born, got a job, probably did that job for life and then retired, without so much as a thought in the world. had a kid and house at 25 just like everyone else, i dont think that makes them bad, they did what they all did

the govs of the world though, they're the ones who made these sytems and who could make policies to change things, except they dont

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i dont think that makes them bad, they did what they all did

the govs of the world though, they're the ones who made these sytems and who could make policies to change things, except they dont

agreed and agreed. The latter, yes, makes them culpabable and any kind of justice have those peeps pay the price (prison, stripped of assets, etc etc). But the former, most of whom weren't doing this on purpose and out of malice, they were still the undeserved beneficiaries of a thing someone else unjustly made for them.

Crudely: if a guy robs a bunch of stores and then shows up at my house for coffee, bringing me gifts, food, and a nice new lambo, I don't get to keep the lambo just because I wasn't to blame for the crime. Doesn't matter that I didn't know/too stupid to understand

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