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.... not literally (they too old, weak and unhealthy to cause a riot). Bear with me.

I bash the boomers quite a lot here, individually and as a class.

It's only a little bit in jest; obviously I don't want to take anybody's stuff or commit senicide (like a proper Norseman), nor do I think every single boomer is a horned demon (or do I?!) but if there were a way to rewind the clock or press a button to take away their unearned gains/abolish Social Security or your equivalent Europoorean gov state Ponzi scheme (with the associated dividend windfalls reasonably distributed etc, etc.) of course I -- like any sane, sensible, thoughtful person -- would do that!

I do generally think boomers, as a class, have betrayed all that is good

#1388123

Short of impossible dreams, magical or political, it is possible for individual boomers to be better (#1598011): don't claim SS (or max it, and give it to someone who deserves it), give away most of your wealth (or even consume it... that's still work for someone else) or better yet, go out of your way to care for grandkids and pay for as much as you possibly can; remortgage your paid-off house to do it, if you need to.

Still, it's undeniable that the boomers, individually, have acquired unearned wealth and have, broadly speaking, failed any honorable morality test of an upstanding citizenry. #1598011, #1527198.

But when Niall Ferguson and Izabella Kaminska, establishment historian and journalist, respectively, say the same thing... it's a tad unnerving?

As I write, French schools are burning—set ablaze by high schoolers who say they want more investment in education but for some reason think they can achieve this by filling the streets with garbage, setting it on fire, waving Palestinian flags, and clashing with the police.

lol, SELF-OWN.

(obviously there's plenty of retarded peeps in my own younger generations, too; and god knows the troubles we'd be in if the green woke dystopia had not been balanced by more conservative, largely boomer counterweights.) But they're ignorant; quite a lot of the boomers are complacent, or downright evil (hence the horns...).

"it’s not just France. The kids are out in the streets of Madrid, too, incensed (they claim) about a growing housing crisis. In Brussels the burning issue is government budget cuts."

So what do the burning cities of Europe have to do with boomerism?

Well:

The fact that young people are setting wheelie bins on fire is in some ways a distraction from the root causes of all this political instability. For, despite the echoes of 1789, 1830, 1848, 1871, and 1968, when youthful revolutionaries challenged Europe’s established order, the generational politics of 2026 is very different.
Today, by historical standards, the young are an endangered species. They are dimly aware that they are being screwed, but they don’t appear to understand who’s doing the screwing.

"A clue for the European young: It’s not Donald Trump or Benjamin Netanyahu or whoever else you want to burn in effigy. Mais, non: It’s your grandparents."

Hot. Freakin'. Damn.

The French rioters say their principal grievance is under-investment in schools. But it should really be over-investment in French retirees.
...it has paid better in both [the UK and France] to be retired than to be employed....

PREACH.


Nice little econ recap of yields and oil prices.

France is not alone. In both Italy and the United Kingdom, the cost of government borrowing is higher than the nominal growth rate. What has gone wrong? Here’s where grandma and grandad come in. The French (and British and Italian) fiscal crisis is at root due to generational imbalances in welfare and tax systems, exacerbated by reflexive Keynesian spending every time anything nasty happens (a financial crisis, a pandemic, a war, an energy shock).

Guess I could have titled this "the Keynesians did it" too? #1476087, #1537872
(Because without them, and on a sound money, or with a small gov, the boomers could ever only have inflicted so much damage -- no matter their moral or cognitive failures)

Yup, we're pretty fucked: #1593563, #1590714

Europe has relatively generous welfare systems, which do more taxing and redistributing than their U.S. equivalents. It’s just that these systems were designed for 2.5 children per family and an average life expectancy of 62, not 1.25 and 79. With a few exceptions, the various European models are in the early phase of a nosedive into insolvency.

AND, let's not forget, aging populations (=boomers) living too long(!), didn't pay up enough, and have been stealing too much (as a class, anyway):

aging isn’t the sole driver of rising public debt. It explains about two-fifths of the increase since 2000. The rest is due to debt-financed spending in response to the financial crisis, Covid-19, and other crises; tax cuts and discretionary spending; and the rising cost of paying interest on the debt
This is not primarily a problem of public pensions—the original government welfare program, introduced by the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck in 1889. The OECD’s latest projections have average public pension spending rising from 8.8 percent of GDP in 2023–2024 to 10 percent in 2050—not a crippling increase. This is because most countries (not all) have acted in various ways to cap the costs of public pensions, either by reducing benefits, restricting coverage, or raising retirement ages.

"politicians on both sides of the English Channel have gotten into the very bad habit of bribing seniors based on the observation that they are increasingly numerous and have relatively high turnout rates in elections."

EXCELLENT FUCKING PARAGRAPH:

The vocabulary of European politics rules out the sentence: “We need to reform seniors’ entitlements so that we don’t go bankrupt.” Instead, the left offers socialism and the right serves up national socialism. The left lays the blame on billionaires, whom they will tax to pay for yet more benefits. The right lays the blame on immigrants, whom they will deport as if that will help matters. Apart from that difference, there is a horseshoe forming in Western politics: At the extremes, socialism and national socialism are converging on economic issues (industrial policy, public ownership, rent controls), not to mention foreign policy (blame Israel for everything). Of course, these tired old ideas bear almost no relation to economic reality.
think young Europeans have been so successfully indoctrinated in school and college that they’ll blame almost anyone for their dissatisfaction, except the people who are actually responsible: namely seniors and the politicians who rely on their votes.

Incredible. Indeed: Fuck. The. Boomers.

oh, fuck: the only thing Europe is investing in ("Investing")... also boomers:

A shocking amount of European defense spending goes to—you guessed it—the pensions of retired military personnel.
Young people will set more things on fire; if not their own schools, then asylum-seekers’ hotels and synagogues as a rising share of young men swing to the far right. That will achieve precisely nothing, except to expedite the capital flight.

open access here: https://niallferguson.substack.com/p/why-europe-is-burning

Are we really going to blame the grandparents? They're not the enemy, they're the excuse. It's the model that pits us against each other

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Nope, they're definitely to blame. Not enemy, specifically, but def blame/cause

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They're a symptom, not the cause, the cause is the model that made it rational to take from the young and charge it to the future

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"don't blame the thief, blame the system [greed, dishonerable values] that make it rational to take from others"

Masterful idiocy, sir.

We are only guilty for giving birth to the most ungrateful spoiled generation ever known upon the planet.
You shall all be enslaved by the Chinese as you need to learn the discipline only possible from eating bitter fruits.
A lesson we Boomers failed to teach you.
China won the trade war because they understand apply state capitalism combined with free enterprise- the most potent economic model that has defeated your crony capitalist imperialism.
You cannot even breed at replacement rate- you and your nihilist Libertarian nonsense are the cause of the decline of western civilisation.

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Guess I could have titled this "the Keynesians did it" too?

Don't worry, I can bail you out again: The Boomers are the Keynesians.

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Amazing 😍

That solves all the problems!

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It definitely seems like the seeds are being sown to "soak the boomers" in the near future.

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There won't be anything to soak... they'll be dead. They're gonna go after the boomers' heirs.

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Jokes on them, the Boomers aren’t leaving anything for their heirs

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Expecting the boomers to give up their SS , would be like expecting people to pay in the socialist restaurant; some would, most won't. Self-interest and preservation are the prime drivers for most humans.

Boomers played the game the system told them to, and largely won, people cranking out babies, jobs galore, powerful currency, still on a nominal gold standard, not in fiat clown world. Maybe they were born in the luckist time in history and thought that's just how the world is.

Younger people now are also trying to do the right things, but the whole fiat system and demographics have fucked them, and now AI is ass-pounding them as well. Bad timing basically, 4th turning bad.

If btc goes parabolic in the future , then us current stackers will be hated i expect

What boomers are usually guilty of is failing to understand that young people live in a different world and that the reason they can't get a mortgage is not that they are constantly eating avocado toast etc

The tone-deafness and self-righteousness is really what makes it easy to rag on them

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No, it's fine easy "to rag on them" because they are immortal, cognitively deficient, and directly to blame for most of the problems you even outline in your comment. Yes, their inability to understand that makes it worse

And no, unlike the socialist restaurant — where the socialists frequenting it understand that they have to give something up for it to work, the boomers of today don't (largely speaking) understand.

And my point in there is precisely that "the boomers played the game (...as it lays)" isn't an acceptable excuse unless you also give up SS.
Hence the connection.

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the average person was just born, got a job, probably did that job for life and then retired, without so much as a thought in the world. had a kid and house at 25 just like everyone else, i dont think that makes them bad, they did what they all did

the govs of the world though, they're the ones who made these sytems and who could make policies to change things, except they dont

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i dont think that makes them bad, they did what they all did

the govs of the world though, they're the ones who made these sytems and who could make policies to change things, except they dont

agreed and agreed. The latter, yes, makes them culpabable and any kind of justice have those peeps pay the price (prison, stripped of assets, etc etc). But the former, most of whom weren't doing this on purpose and out of malice, they were still the undeserved beneficiaries of a thing someone else unjustly made for them.

Crudely: if a guy robs a bunch of stores and then shows up at my house for coffee, bringing me gifts, food, and a nice new lambo, I don't get to keep the lambo just because I wasn't to blame for the crime. Doesn't matter that I didn't know/too stupid to understand

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In France, the day of reckoning is here and now.

Well, this sure sounds grim...and more importantly consequential. I wonder if it is the case, though? It seems like these riots will fade just like the covid riots faded and governments will get back to more of the same: spend more, tax more, extract more.

Some actual reckoning is probably what is most needed: governments being forced to deal with their deficits and the choices they keep making to spend more money rather than become more efficient.

I don't believe that we will ever see reform. These things can go on for a painfully long time and there is always some new catastrophe in the wings on which politicians can blame any unpleasant numbers.

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I don't believe that we will ever see reform. These things can go on for a painfully long time and there is always some new catastrophe

Yeah, same. Horrific and super blackpilled outlook. Our only hope is introducing by some sly roundabout way something they can't stop

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how convenient neither of you mention immigration the elephant in the continent

Pathetic cowards

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the fake outrage is nauseating

self own? You mean self immolation

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Dream on Millennial Libertarian Icelandic welfare recipient.

Bitcoin has already been largely captured by the Zionist bankers who own your government.

China won the trade war - and you can't deal with it.

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"Gradually, then suddenly."
-- Robespierre, probably

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what covid riots? you can't just make shit up

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The former industrial imperialist power of the west have lost their advantage to China which now dominates global trade in commodities and manufactured goods.
Libertarians are blind to this reality because it conflicts with their idiotic dogma.
You will see reform in the form of chaos as western imperialism loses its global hegemony over institutions and protocols.

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As I write, French schools are burning—set ablaze by high schoolers who say they want more investment in education but for some reason think they can achieve this by filling the streets with garbage, setting it on fire, waving Palestinian flags, and clashing with the police.

Obviously, the riots are not due to underinvestment in education. A small protest about education may have triggered it, but the riots setting cities in flame are not caused by that.

The cause of the riots is the learned helplessness of a generation who've been taught that every problem in their life is someone else's fault... and, consequently, that the solutions exist entirely in the hands of other people... people who need to be coerced violently into solving the problem you aren't able to solve yourself (because of your learned helplessness).

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have you looked at the demographics of the so called rioters?

it's not complicated, you are making it complicated

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Interesting post... I agree with you... the riots will only make them a little more noticeable

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