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Yet few people pay with bitcoin in everyday life, a point most in the industry accept. The gap is mostly demand, not technology.

I think the technology is actually preventing demand because the developer experience is terrible.

The appeal of bitcoin payments to developers is there - some version of "non-custodial, programmable, globally interoperable micropayments"

But implementing non-custodial lightning payments into an app or service is still too difficult. The only SDK that seems easy to use is Breez / Spark - but researching this quickly leads you to debates about trust models and whether it is "really bitcoin", which is off putting when you just want to build something.

Where are the easy to use non-custodial bitcoin SDKs that support lightning and have simple no-kyc on-ramps for small amounts?

If these existed and were genuinely easy to integrate - developers would want to build on lightning - and demand would flow from there.

Agreed. Lexe has been a revelation for me, especially when provisioning wallets for agents. Spinning up a wallet is fast, free, and trust-minimized. I think we need more examples of apps/agents using Lexe. @MaxFangX

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interesting thanks - will definitely experiment with lexe

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311 sats \ 1 reply \ @MaxFangX 27 Oct
interesting thanks - will definitely experiment with lexe

Don't hesitate to ping me if you have any questions! If you just tell your agent to "set up a Lexe wallet" it will get going really quickly :)

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thanks sent you a dm!

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127 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 27 Oct

I know nothing about nor do I bother with ios and android. I use open source operating systems like linux which don't require a closed source hardware device with a built in tracking device (cell modem). Yes, even my "phone" runs linux yes it works. But for using lightning, it should be as simple as simply having the ability to connect to lighting routers in which they can then have inbound channels opened to them. Is it really difficult to program a lightning app on ios and android devices?

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Yes it is. For instance: These “inbound channels” means someone needs to lock in their bitcoin to provide that service. Nobody is gonna do that for free and currently I think we are missing the incentives for this to bootstrap and thus the only solutions are custodial and these are regulated companies scared of going to jail so they force strong KYC etc.

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Good point!!!

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