What is the ideal bitcoiner car?
1927 sats \ 32 comments \ @JulienPH 25 Apr 2023 bitcoin
I currently have a 2004 Golf 5 which is doing its job efficiently, but it's starting to get some kilometers (+215000 km) and I've already had some repairs done. With ~25000 km/year, I will push it to its maximum but when I will have a serious and too expensive breakdown (engine hypothetically), it will be better to change the car (maybe ?).
The question I ask myself is: what is the best strategy to choose a car without wasting sats ? Knowing that taking an antique car is the guarantee of a surprise breakdown and a short life span. It is out of the question to take a new car and pay a premium of VAT on it. What is the right age balance for a used car? For kilometers? Fuel consumption ? What are the most robust and/or underpriced brand/models? Should I go through a garage or a person?
I'm not looking for anything too luxurious, my only requirement is a car in the same category as my Golf (currently the argus is ~3500€). I prefer to ask on SN because you surely had to face this problem, and my colleagues from the Fiat mine are more interested in getting the biggest car possible via the rental of the company's car policy.
PS : I live in the north-east of France
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671 sats \ 18 replies \ @DarthCoin 25 Apr 2023
What is the ideal bitcoiner car?
A bike. A damn shity bike. Not even electric, just an old fashioned bicycle. If you still buy a car, that means you are short Bitcoin.
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33 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr 25 Apr 2023
just bought a bike, really starting to change my mind on the importance of cars in cities.
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17 sats \ 1 reply \ @franzap 25 Apr 2023
Yes, there is quite a difference though between North American and other cities around the world
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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 25 Apr 2023
living in a cold (and snowy) north american city, i think there is still a lot of under appreciated potential for bikes.
i do see electric bikes as an important innovation (most people don’t want the exercise), and fat tires are helpful for navigating during bad snow storms.
i know lots of people who prefer city bike rentals over public buses and trains now, and governments are also pushing for bike adoption (perhaps because it lowers their road maintenance costs).
there are a lot of factors at play here, but it feels like bikes have some pretty strong momentum.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 25 Apr 2023
lol. Try hauling lumber with a bike :) You crack me up.
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @JulienPH OP 25 Apr 2023
I don't live near my workplace No car = No fiat job No fiat job = No Bitcoin DCA NGMI
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 25 Apr 2023
change your life, adapt
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 25 Apr 2023
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @erict875 26 Apr 2023
A scooter, comrade!
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @franzap 25 Apr 2023
And if using a bike results in earning less bitcoin than with a car? Does not sound very wise
Or are you recommending a bike because it emits less CO2? lol
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @SpaceHodler 25 Apr 2023
Fit a dynamo in and mine bitcoin with it.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 25 Apr 2023
For completeness I'll add that if you don't, you're short Bitcoin.
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 25 Apr 2023
If your earnings in btc depends on a car, then you are really short BTC. Change your way of living.
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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @kakocuro 25 Apr 2023
How is a car in any way related to bitcoin? Next thing you say, forget a house, buy a tent.
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1 sat \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 25 Apr 2023
forget a house, buy a tent.
Yes 😂😂😂 What is wrong with a tent?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kakocuro 25 Apr 2023
Nothing. I love me a good tent or just a hammock.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @franzap 25 Apr 2023
If you own a tent or hammock you're short BTC
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kakocuro 25 Apr 2023
hehe, perhaps now it is not such a bad idea before the flush dip comes ;)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Neo 25 Apr 2023
:D
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73 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 25 Apr 2023
Figure out what your needs are, buy used from someone that serviced the car properly. I prefer vehicles that have a history of long life with high mileage and low maintenance cost as well as ready availability of parts. Cars are tools they are terrible places to park your life force. As a tool you may be able to stack more sats with a car. If you live in city with good public transportation maybe you can get by with a bike. To me a vehicle is freedom. If stuff goes sideways I can leave. I can haul things to fix things for my home. I can haul things I need to grow food. It is a tool and I don't waste money to buy a fiat trophy.
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6 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 25 Apr 2023
IMO you definitely want to buy used from a manufacturer known for reliability. I’d also buy a modern-ish car for the safety features.
A couple years ago we bought a Toyota Sienna that was 2 years old with 30k miles at half the cost the car was new off the lot.
It’s kind of the perfect generic vehicle. You can fit a lot of people comfortably and the seats come out so you can haul most things, eg 4x8’ lumber. Because we don’t have furniture really, we can move from rental to rental using it as a moving truck.
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13 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 25 Apr 2023
That said I very very rarely drive. I don’t like to drive. I walk 40 minutes each way to the office every day.
The car mostly sits unused.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @JulienPH OP 25 Apr 2023
Maybe too big for me but thx
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14 sats \ 1 reply \ @spraveenitpro 25 Apr 2023
Honda Civic ofcourse,
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JulienPH OP 25 Apr 2023
Thank, noted
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Busybe3z 25 Apr 2023
Tool not a trophy 🏆 Efficient and economic is what you want Coinapp doesn’t hurt lol
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @Epi54 25 Apr 2023
As a Maxi don't buy a car that's younger than bitcoin. I had 15 years and 400Tkm a VW Golf II. Needed a bigger car for towing trailers, bought a Mercedes W124 Model T up to 320Tkm, than moved to into a city and switched to a smaller car. Peugeot 106 for 240Tkm and drive now a Renault Kangoo (204 Tkm). All cars with the smallest engine available. All were used. None of them ever broke down.
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Epi54 25 Apr 2023
Go to a online platform for cars. Search for roughly the type of car (size etc.) you want. Sort for highest overall milage and note, which cars with what engine version last longest. Than pick one with half the achivable milage. Add things like a trailer hook by yourself, because such features narrow the available search results too much and do wear down a car over time.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JulienPH OP 26 Apr 2023
This is the kind of good idea I'm looking for, thanks
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ssaurel 26 Apr 2023
The best car is no car at all.
Walk, bike, and use public transportation instead.
Of course, this is easier said than done depending on where you live, but it is probably the best option.
For the rest, a minimal and simply functional car will do. No need to impress others as the current system pushes us to do. It is the consumer society that wants us to believe that we always need a bigger, faster, more ...
To have already become aware of this trap is a big step.
Basically, being a Bitcoiner leads you to frugality, to minimalism, because you are refocusing on what you really want and not on what society pushes you to want.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshiNakanodo 26 Apr 2023
Cars are money-pits and unnecessary in most cities if you are willing to move to a neighborhood that is walkable with good public transit access.
If you must buy a car, it should be small, old, and ugly. Something you won’t give a shit about if it gets dinged, scratched or stolen. And buy with fiat - no financing/leasing/payments. Something like a cheap Hyundai or a 1985 Datsun.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @chungkingexpress 25 Apr 2023
I have not owned a car in 10 years.
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