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335 sats \ 14 replies \ @nerd2ninja 30 Jun 2023 \ on: If someone blocks your car (protestors) meta
Look, all I know is if my life feels threatened, I will use deadly force. If the car is surrounded I might get a little scared, but if people start banging on windows and hitting the car with their hands or other things, I'm using my car as a weapon to defend myself.
In most places in the US this is the answer. If you hurt/kill someone with the vehicle you will have to argue in court why you thought your life was in great bodily harm or death. If you can't convince a jury that you feared for your life, you are going to have a bad time.
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Right, which is why I was very clear with my answer that it was a situation where there was an obvious danger present.
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There's a difference between danger to your property (someone smashing your window) and a physical danger to you - clear actions, intention to hurt you, a threatening movement with deadly weapon, etc. That would be closely evaluated in front of a court.
Most of western systems try balancing the magnitudes of action and reaction.
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And there's also a difference between smashing a window and smashing a window that you are directly behind.
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If I'm in the car and someone smashes my window
Look, we're not in a court room, but lets just say, don't do stupid shit just because you think you can get away with it. Whether its legal or not, people will act how they feel they MUST act to live.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
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Yep. And if you wait too long, people surrounding your car can lift it up and immobilize you depending on how big your car is.
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I'd like to see that on video. I'm sure a bunch of people could pick up a vehicle, but not easily and not quickly.
Also if you are in the USA you should carry a firearm that way if you are in a situation like that you can still use your firearm to keep yourself safe.
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So simple holding you in place doesnt allow for physical removal of them? Pulling them to the side of the road for example
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Legally it does not, plus if you touch them at all they could claim you assaulted them. Plus that puts you in a very risky situation since they can now very easily attack you.
Staying in your vehicle is a good idea because it's a barrier between you and the people blocking your vehicle. Also if someone then tries to break into your vehicle that will make it easier to convince a jury that you were afraid if they got into your vehicle they were going to hurt you.
If you are in a situation like that in the USA, stay in your car and call the police. If anyone tries break into your car and you feel like your life is in danger, drive away as fast as you can, even if that means using your vehicle as a weapon.
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Lets say they dont, thy just block. Imagine "Stop the gas" ecotards not violent BLM mob.
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In this case my life wouldn't feel threatened, so I wouldn't feel the need to use force. Its an annoyance, not a life threatening situation.
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What if you were not in car? Just a group of people surrounding your person?
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Why are they surrounding my person? I would try my best to get out of that crowd before the mood of that crowd shifted from "lets hold a sign" to "lets burn a building" lol
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You exhale CO2 like that car :P :P you are enemy.
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