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2282 sats \ 14 comments \ @siggy47 4 Jul 2023 meta

Last night the feed was dead and I was snooping around, bored, when Jimmy Song posts original content out of the blue. I was excited, but no one seemed to notice. I'm sure it was because it was the night before the Fourth Of July. I'm happy to see it got the attention it deserved overnight.

I was excited because it would be great if writers and thinkers of his caliber would see SN as a viable place to post original content, both financially by getting sats and from an attention and influence standpoint. At this point SN is competing with substack, medium, and self hosted sites, and, to a lesser extent, nostr.

I wonder if the powers that be have a way of attracting more "big names" to publish here? Maybe a more robust long form editing format, maybe a separate type of post?

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77 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Jul 2023

In the landscape of the web SN is a baby. Think of it as the Joe Rogan podcast back in 2013. Only podcast enthusiasts were listening but as adoption grows people will come. I remember when twitch was launched and now it’s mainstream.

If the content is good people will come

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 4 Jul 2023

I will say that for the few posts I’ve made that are longer than a sentence or two, I draft them in VSCode which has nice (IMO) built in markdown preview support. Once I’m happy with it, then I paste it in to SN’s input form and check formatting in the preview tab. I wouldn’t draft anything substantial in the browser for fear of accidentally refreshing the page and losing my work.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 4 Jul 2023

I do the same, but just use a simple Libre doc. I have grown to love the simplicity of markdown. Quick and easy. As an incremental improvement maybe a save draft feature would be helpful.

33 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b 4 Jul 2023

Many big names are likely pseudonymous here because it's more of an idea game than an identity one. They are also likely weary of platform dependence.

You've consistently written some of the most loved original content here.

Dream a little and describe what we can do to make it better?

61 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 OP 4 Jul 2023

Thanks for the kind words. You know, I have a lot of respect for the SN braintrust and more so lately. I didnt think changes that were made recently were the right move and they turned out great. An example- the tech sub. As a non techie I didn't think it made sense, and I find myself using it a lot. I also like the gradual change idea. My point? I don't know what's best re long form. I remember old discussions where individual blogs were discussed, pinned posts, etc., but I can see why they weren't implemented. The integration would be awkward. Maybe it's best to just leave well enough alone for now. I will think about it, though

33 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 4 Jul 2023

We try to be mindful of shocking disruptions to stackers' consumption/production especially for lateral improvements but there's likely low hanging fruit with long form content that we haven't reached for yet.

My goal with SN is to prove out that digital communities don't require moderation given the right tools so that's what I'm focused on product-wise (for the first time in awhile). But I'm always interested in making the day to day experience better too.

33 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 4 Jul 2023

Along those lines...this is off topic, but you recently mentioned that you are working towards stackers owning their own accounts. I'm having trouble conceptualizing that. What would it look like?

315 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 4 Jul 2023

I was probably talking about stackers owning their feeds (aka their own perspective of the frontpage). Right now there is a collective homepage - we all see the same thing (wild west mode and greeter mode exempted).

One hypothesis I have is that we can bias each stacker's feed just enough, based on their zap history, such that

stackers are moderating their own experience subjectively and passively
the community feeling is retained because we are all still mostly experiencing the same content

Moderation is required for outlying content yet outlying content is in the eye of the moderator. In the recent nostr communities proposal, it explicitly allows for moderation. The most telling defense of the decision was "moderation isn't censorship, its protection from censorship." This is absolute nonsense imo but it's mostly saying "allowing certain kinds of outlying content to win censors consensus content." We want stackers to decide for themselves what they find outlying while still getting to experience the consensus content.

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 4 Jul 2023

I much prefer your approach. I wasn't aware of this nostr communities proposal. Would this still be something a relay could opt out of?

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 4 Jul 2023

I'm not sure how it works tbh. Like with most things on nostr, I suspect you can find relays/clients that don't respect the rules of proposals.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 4 Jul 2023

AI might be able to detect the pseudonyms in the future. Be careful out there, folks