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46 comments \ @saloon 7 Jul 2023 \ yesterday

This is a thread for random discussions that gets posted everyday at 5am central.

Tell us what you're doing today, ask questions, or vent about your life. Whatever you want, let it rip!

31 sats \ 7 replies \ @GrinSingularity 7 Jul 2023

Hello everyone! What are your hobbies?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 8 Jul 2023

reading, writing, film, music, drawing, social clubs and anything creative actually

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @tnuts420 8 Jul 2023

gaming, disc golf, reading, watching sports, playing with my plex server, hanging out with my dog. i also have a zippo collection that's getting pretty respectable

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 8 Jul 2023

programming, climbing (at least it used to be but it's hard without someone belaying you), playing piano, reading

what about you?

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @orthwyrm 8 Jul 2023

climbing (at least it used to be but it's hard without someone belaying you)

Definitely try bouldering then. Much less hassle, just put on the climbing shoes and grab some chalk!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 8 Jul 2023

Oh, yes, I did that for a year or two regularly and got pretty good at it I would say. But the lockdowns destroyed my habit of going there regularly and now I need to lose some weight first before I can go bouldering again. The routes feel either too easy or too hard and dangerous now

And I always liked climbing more. More focus on endurance and the mental aspect of trusting someone else and your skills. Bouldering also has some mental aspect but it's different

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 8 Jul 2023

But the lockdowns destroyed my habit of going there regularly and now I need to lose some weight first before I can go bouldering again.

Yep... I had the exact same experience. x)

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

Programming

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @nkmg1c_ventures 7 Jul 2023

Huge hack occurred with a bridge, Multichain, on Fantom. The USDC which was the base USDC for the system is currently down about 20 - 30 % against other USD-related stablecoins.

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2023/07/07/multichain-team-confirms-exploit-across-fantom-moonriver-and-dogechain-bridges/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 8 Jul 2023

Another day, another defi hack. Although I'm more inclined to think these things are typically insider jobs.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @guts 7 Jul 2023

Amethyst adding communities is really cool.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

Have you tried it? I'm on iOS and can't check it out.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 7 Jul 2023

I tried on Android (0.66.1)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 7 Jul 2023

Looking forward to a weekend of listening to Bitcoin podcasts and orange pilling my financial advisor!

13 sats \ 2 replies \ @RealCoachAndy 7 Jul 2023

Hi everyone, Friday is here and the weekend has just begun, what a glorious day, sun is shinning, coffee has been brewed and some pastries to go with it, one more week of work then summer vacations, give the old squirrel on the wheel a little break, week went fast, but hope everyone enjoyed it. Now the weekend is here and let's just relax and keep on keeping on. I wish you an incredible day and that all your endeavors be fruitful and successful. Be well and stay frosty gang!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 7 Jul 2023

Have a great weekend Coach.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @RealCoachAndy 7 Jul 2023

You as well my friend, make it a phenomenal one!!!

331 sats \ 1 reply \ @laurentmagembe99 7 Jul 2023 freebie

Greatings, I am a new user here, from Tanzania. I'm in need of your help and guide through my journey of learning and stacking sats.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @LaserStack 7 Jul 2023

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or anyone else!

114 sats \ 9 replies \ @elvismercury 7 Jul 2023

Has there ever been a writeup about the evolution of SN? I'm new here, but the development / search through feature space seems to be unfolding thoughtfully, trying to curate the right vibe and the right interactions. It would be interesting to follow this along from the beginning, to see what was tried, what happened, etc.

Has anyone written an analysis or retrospective along the way? Can anyone recommend a strategy for unearthing such a narrative trail, if it doesn't exist?

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 8 Jul 2023

Check out old episodes of SNL on YouTube we started covering Stacker News weekly in Feb of 2022 about 8 months after it launched give or take.

51 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

It might help to read the origin story and then we have a manually maintained and incomplete, but high level, change log.

IMO the game theory evolution is perhaps the most interesting. That's really what's new. I need to write it up or something though.

Dorsey said on nostr:

Zaps represent the only fundamentally new innovation in social media.

Everything else is a distraction.

I really think zaps are just the tip of the iceberg. Bitcoin is the fundamentally new innovation in social media and it enables far more than zaps.

the development / search through feature space seems to be unfolding thoughtfully

We get distracted like anyone, but I try the best I can to build in a low time preference way which mostly involves prioritizing consideration of the big, hard, and unsolved problems that most people neglect. I feel pretty strongly that everything we're building is a draft of what the digital commons will be in the future.

11k sats \ 2 replies \ @elvismercury 7 Jul 2023

One more question:

Reading through the change log, I followed a link to the SN post about web of trust. This made me think of something I've been thinking about a bunch lately, from using PKM tools (Logseq is my current one) where making it easy to talk about things is a design goal. Making it easy to talk about things through links, search, and automatic back links, causes a densely structured graph to emerge, a very useful kind of semantic knowledge store. It's pretty remarkable how it all pops out.

This is relevant bc at first SN looks like Hacker News, with the familiar features; but the more I dig into it, the more it seems like you're playing around with hybrid ideas about how communication should work online -- you alluded to some, above, wrt Zaps. I'm curious if this, too, is something you've thought about playing with: other ways to structure conversations, make them findable, referenceable, etc., beyond the familiar message board paradigm?

Don't get me wrong, doing the familiar thing well is a substantial contribution, and there's enough experimentation w/ btc integration to keep anyone busy. Just wondering how far your experimental aspirations go :)

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Jul

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141 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

I do want the board to be atypical, e.g. recursive sub-boards (subs have subs), a variety of economic ranking algorithms (there are so many different auction algorithms), marketplaces, financial incentives and economy management tools for running sub-boards, etc.

We've talked about internal linking shortcuts like #205407 would reference the comment I'm replying to. Comments or posts could accumulate references kind of like github issues and context could cascade. We could do the same with mentions.

I've also been encouraged to read about Project Xanadu (I'm a sucker for tech history) but I have an embarrassingly deep book queue atm.

Other than that, I haven't thought a whole lot about conversation structure yet. I've focused primarily on the game theory/incentives because I find most people are bored by it, it's under explored, yet it's probably the single most powerful tool for generically skewing behavior.

Thanks for bringing this up. You've convinced me I'm not thinking about it enough!

131 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 7 Jul 2023

Yeah, that ethos comes across, even from a quite brief exposure.

What I like most is that, even if you don't care about btc at all, there's a real question unfolding in the world of how to build a good online community, what a good community even is, and what primitives are needed to do it. The ability to signal-boost by sacrificing money, requiring proof-of-sacrifice (spending sats) to speak, all of it, is so important and interesting, and the way you're approaching all of this w/ the tools btc offers is so fascinating.

Thanks for the link to the change log -- please keep documenting!

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 7 Jul 2023

Cool story. Are you disappointed you ended up with a bunch of "tech-challenged" animals like me in the zoo?

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

No not at all. Tbh I wasn’t expecting anyone to show up. And most of you are like 80th percentile of technicality population-wide given you understand and desire to use bitcoin/lightning.

Bit devs attendees are only 10-20% programmers I’d guess so we are probably meeting that requirement pretty well.

Many name brand devs read here but can’t be bothered to participate yet. I suspect that’ll change as we get more people with enough overlapping expertise.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 7 Jul 2023

I think that is roughly correct. I feel like an absolute Neanderthal reading some of the technical heavy posts on here but outside of people who actually work in/with tech I have a better understanding of than most people.

I was aware of HackerNews because of this week in startups podcast but when I tried the site I was completely lost. Then last November I saw your twitter account or maybe it was the SN account mention Stacker News was like Hacker News except you can earn sats so I tried the site out and found that a lot of the discussion was bitcoin and macro along with the technical stuff so it was right up my alley and I could learn a bit more of the technical stuff just by being more broadly engaged with the SN community.

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @premitive1 7 Jul 2023

It's friday, internet! let's enjoy another weekend come after a week worked.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @premitive1 7 Jul 2023

I ended up getting sea sick working on a boat in Ft. Lauderdale. I won't take jobs on boats on bays when I have my own business!

137 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 7 Jul 2023

Day 83 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

__@_'-'

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 7 Jul 2023

👍

33 sats \ 11 replies \ @carlosfandango 7 Jul 2023

Check price… no snail!

20 sats \ 10 replies \ @orthwyrm 7 Jul 2023

I had a dream last night where the price hit $200k. It was one of those annoying dreams where it seemed very realistic and you think to yourself "This is definitely real life". Bah.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 7 Jul 2023

You need bigger dreams my friend. Make it 2M and change the world.

40 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 7 Jul 2023

I had a dream a few weeks ago that bitcoin went down to 3k. Then I bought all the bitcoins.

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @orthwyrm 7 Jul 2023

That would be amazing and horrifying in equal measures. Amazing because of cheap sats, and horrifying because I'm more or less out of spare cash to lump sum into a dip like that. I maxxed out during the FTX fiasco. :V

Is it bitcoin or bitcoins?

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Atreus 7 Jul 2023

If you've been here for 10 years it's bitcoins. If you've been here for 5, it's bitcoin.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

If you’ve been here 1 year, it’s sats.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 7 Jul 2023

Is it bitcoin or bitcoins?

To be honest, I don't know, lol

I use "bitcoins" since I've seen someone replying to lukedashjr using "bitcoins" that you can tell if somebody is an OG if he writes "bitcoins" or "bitcoin".

Then I decided I want to be cool and look like an OG myself

Possibly cringe but I think it's a funny story. And I like "bitcoins" now. It sounds cute

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

I suspect they call it bitcoins because they had so many of them

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 7 Jul 2023

Would make sense

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul 2023

I suspect in 10+ years it'll be "10 sat" rather than "10 sats" as "sats" will sound just as strange as "bitcoins."