Thanks for that. Andreas gave a great overview of the situation, and addressed some of my worries. That said it seem a little unclear to me if CTV will by some sly round about way introduce the possibility of recursive covenants. I need to study the details of bip 119 before i can support it. He also made a good point about the dangers of Speedy Trial activation as a first step instead of last step of the activation process. When its clear that there is no danger, and has overwhelming support Speedy Trial can be used. To early to discuss activation atm imo.