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Are there topics you avoid discussing to maintain political correctness?

2821 sats \ 28 comments \ @libertad2cero 20 Aug 2023 bitcoin

In some recent conversations where I've talked about sensitive subjects for many liberals, I've realized how difficult it can be to have an honest discussion without getting disqualified or facing ad-hominem attacks. A few examples are: • Immigration • Climate change • WHO doctrine • 2030 agenda

Yes, there are taboo subjects.40.7%

No, I speak about everything.59.3%

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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @nightsofbitcoin 21 Aug 2023

I pull no punched in person or under my real name online. This anonymous handle is my easygoing online identity. The opposite of a lot of people, I suppose.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 20 Aug 2023

You tried broaching the subject of nutrition with a vegan? Or health with a Fat activist? Or energy with an environmentalist? Or gender fluidity with... Well anyone... That one always gets a "you can't say that, shhh, someone might hear you" response.

There are plenty of taboo topics. Question is do you know enough about them to debate without emotion in cold hard truths only, without presenting your opinion as fact on an emotionally divisive topic?

29 sats \ 0 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

I speak about everything, but I also try not to present my opinions as gospel, which is something conservatives have trouble with.

25 sats \ 1 reply \ @AllCatsAreEvil 20 Aug 2023

I'm well known on FB for saying what I think, my friends have learned to put up with it, or blocked me. I got nuked from the dead bird app for saying what I thought. No subject is taboo.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @libertad2cero OP 20 Aug 2023

That's right, IMHO. Many people deceive themselves to maintain a politically correct attitude, but as Jordan Peterson said, "The willful blindness it’s the worst sort of lie".

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 20 Aug 2023

Quite a few. I'm in the awkward position of having many American idealisms mixed in with my native British politeness. Things that seem uncontroversial to you guys (gun ownership, privatised health care) are positively taboo here.

In general I only have these sorts of conversations with people I like, who tend to be pretty open minded in the first place. It's rare that I'd engage in such a discussion with a stranger.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @2bithits 20 Aug 2023

I try to keep things cordial with colleges at work. I let go a bit on the internet

61 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 20 Aug 2023

I don't give a shit about any "views". Is their problem not mine if they do not like what I say. Self-censorship is the most dangerous thing.

71 sats \ 2 replies \ @0330830bf9 20 Aug 2023

This. Because it's not about "views", it's about ones ability to set aside the ego in the quest for truth.

Over the last couple years, I've tried to catch up with various friends/colleagues estranged from long ago. Things start out where we left off, happy to see each other etc...

But through the course of conversation, our disparate realities become too much for them to bear.

I accept that most geopolitical events and narrative are staged acts produced by intelligence agency assets, planned long in advance as psychological operations. That conspiracy is a fact of life made inevitable by incentives, and that we as commoners have little insight into what is actually true. That we do best when hold loosely our assumptions and opinions on such matters.

I recently met to discuss business with an old colleague from ~15 years ago, and in describing my journey in the catch up they became unpredictably triggered by my nomenclature. I simply said "fake pandemic" as part of a personal story, and he instantly had a visceral response.

This was not a woke snowflake 20 year old in Academia. This is a grown man I've known for decades, older than I and sharing a similar background.

I asked why he was so zealous about things he couldn't know for fact. In his response he declared he doesn't believe in conspiracy at all, and that I'm crazy for believing that world altering events don't happen organically and transparently.

There is plenty of room to enjoy the company of people with differing views, but it's not about that and it hasn't been for awhile. People today live on entirely different dimensions that cannot co-occupy space time. The hostility is a primal reaction to restore singularity.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Sasquatch 21 Aug 2023

You are hitting on a hot topic here for me. That Johns Hopkins was doing a Covid simulation in partnership with the Bill and Malinda Gates Foundation in October or 2019... Just a coincidence... The biggest tell is that every treatment was blocked. Respected doctors from around the world were punished and blocked if they offered any treatment advice. And then Joe Rogan happened.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @libertad2cero OP 20 Aug 2023

Personally, I believe that the inability to calculate isn't limited to just praxeology, but to any attempt at central planning by a government. Sometimes their efforts succeed, but often they don't; the elites can't control everything. As for discovering the truth, I think Occam's razor is a good way to get closer to it. We shouldn't shy away from engaging in honest debates

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @libertad2cero OP 20 Aug 2023

You are honorable, and I've always admired you for that. I believe it's necessary to overcome the fear of discussing what one honestly believes is right.

19 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 20 Aug 2023

I'm willing to speak about everything but try to be clear about what's a feeling and what's a fact.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @libertad2cero OP 20 Aug 2023

I agree, any honest debate should be well-grounded, and emotions alone aren't a strong foundation."

3 sats \ 0 replies \ @geisterde 21 Aug 2023 freebie

I speak freely for the most part, I generally avoid certain topics like the WEF not out of fear, only uncertainty in the role they actually play.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @jk_14 20 Aug 2023

"Nothing induces a bigger annoyance than the Truth" :)

137 sats \ 11 replies \ @anon 20 Aug 2023

Yes. The fact that average IQ is different across races is enormously taboo, even in right wing circles.

The reason why there aren't very many well brilliant black mathematicians has little to do with bias and discrimination and a lot to do with the fact that blacks are on average less smart than other races. Similarly, the reason why Ashkenazi Jews are overrepresented, is because Ashkenazi Jews are on average more smart. And in particular, that means that there are a lot more Jewish geniuses than black geniuses at the far end of the IQ scales.

Of course, this makes the Nazi's even more evil in my opinion... they were exterminating Germany's best and brightest. Absolutely disgusting. We're lucky Einstein, among many others, got out in time.

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @libertad2cero OP 20 Aug 2023

Right, also a big taboo.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @nullcount 20 Aug 2023

There are many kinds of intelligence. IQ does not attempt to measure Body-Kinesthetic, linguistic, Musical, naturalistic, intrapersonal or Interpersonal Intelligence.

Being "smart" does not necessarily mean you are good at math, and/or spacial reasoning alone.

Some of the most brilliant orators, social change makers, cultural icons, musicians, biologists, and game changing athletes would have scored poorly on IQ.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 20 Aug 2023

I think you'll find that the reason for a "lower IQ" in black communities is due to social issues. Generation upon generation has had less access to education. And even less access to quality education. Eg. More black students go to college on sports scholarships than white students, yet college demographics are overwhelming white. For some black people sports scholarships may be their only way. So evidently it's more about who can afford college being the biggest prohibitor than IQ. I don't believe it's a genetic thing for one moment. This is a societal problem compounded over generations. Ask yourself why white parents won't send their kids to schools in black neighborhoods? It's not due to danger, not really, it's because the school is shite. Especially in America where schools are hugely funded by the community rather than just tax. The good schools have money, and they churn out good students. The shit ones don't. So you see, it's about opportunity not IQ. I think your thesis on lower IQs in blacks is fundamentally flawed and you should revisit it through the lens of opportunity and available funds.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @clownworld 21 Aug 2023

This has been disproven, as whites in the lowest socioeconomic tiers have similar violent crime rates to blacks in the top tier.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Public_N_M_E 21 Aug 2023

So what you're telling me is that both groups of people in lower socioeconomic states have high crime numbers. Sounds like a socioeconomic issue to me.

You have raised an interesting point about higher social "tiers" as you put it. And I still don't believe it has anything to do with IQ. You see, when you've been beaten and downtrodden by society repeatedly. You're angry. And rightfully so. Someone in the "top tier" is defensive because ignorant white people treat them as foreigners, as people who don't belong in that tier. I think if you look outside of America you'll find that the top end crime stats decrease rapidly. This shows me it's not a race thing. It's a culture thing. Specifically an American culture thing. The only crime stats that remain consistent worldwide is the lower socioeconomic tier. Interestingly that Bridgerton show about queen Charlotte touched on it, though the characters are fictional, they showed a very disturbing problem. When the black lords were given proper title and access to whatever it was lords were given access to. It was rejected by the white people in those positions. All had same title and position yet the whites refused to recognise it. This example showed it, although via fictional drama as the medium, exceptionally well. Like I said. This isn't an IQ problem or a genetic intelligence threshold issue. This is socioeconomic.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @clownworld 21 Aug 2023

What I’m saying is that yes, there exists a socioeconomic factor to crime, but that blacks always show a crime rate far above that of whites. So much so that even blacks in the top socioeconomic tier have a higher violent crime rate than whites in the very lowest tier, although they are gairly similar at those levels.

If you look at it on a chart, you can see that the black crime rates are constantly significantly above white levels for every socioeconomic tier.

Whether this is due to IQ or other genetic causes (e.g., MAOA-2), is not clear, but it’s clear that the crime differential is not due to socioeconomic causes, since whites are always at lower levels for every tier.

Separately, the average difference in IQ between American blacks and whites of about 15 points is well-researched and has been a constant for over a hundred years of measurement.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @geisterde 21 Aug 2023 freebie

I avoid this because it doesn't merit discussion. Statistics has little bearing on your subjective experience, I know plenty of highly intelligent or successful on merit black people, and I know plenty of stupid ones; just like anyone from any race, background, etc. I engage with them on an individual basis rather than trying to place them in a statistical box. Those who approach this from either the right wing side that seeks to explain or justify the disparities, and those from the left who weaponize the disparities, equally get no attention from me, its a distraction from what the individual has to offer. The disparities exist, I'm rather comfortable not pretending to know why, and knowing that politics by nature decreases the absolute well being of everybody, usually biased towards those with the least political influence.

42 sats \ 3 replies \ @clownworld 20 Aug 2023

When you really look into it, you’ll see that Jews’ IQ advantage is in the verbal rather than visuo-spatial/mathematical side. Additionally, they are far over represented in finance, government, etc., even accounting for their IQ curve, because of nepotism and favoritism.

Then you might notice that they disproportionately advocate mass immigration, far left policies, communism, sexual degeneracy and homosexuality, started and run most pornographic businesses, and other inconvenient facts. And you might notice that these issues were very similar in Weimar Germany, and that Hitler was attempting to solve them, and bring back a more healthy society.

And you then might notice that all of the concentration camps where mass killings are alleged lie in the Soviet controlled east, where they could not be verified and Soviet propaganda would have to be trusted without verification. And you might notice that all available global population figures for Jews show not massive loss on the order of six million, or that the number “six million” was used for many years even prior to WWII in numerous newspaper articles seeking sympathy for displaced Jews.

Sorta gets the noggin joggin…

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @anon 20 Aug 2023

Ok Nazi...

When you really look into it, you’ll see that Jews’ IQ advantage is in the verbal rather than visuo-spatial/mathematical side. Additionally, they are far over represented in finance, government, etc., even accounting for their IQ curve, because of nepotism and favoritism.

lololol, Israel, a country of just 9 million people, didn't get 13 Nobel Prizes out of nepotism. A full 20% of Nobel Prize winners are Jewish, while only 0.2% of the world population is jewish.

Idiots like you are frankly a perfect example of how unacknowledged genetic and cultural advantages leads to genocidal hate. You can't understand why jews are so amazingly successful, and you're jealous. So you spew out hate and conspiracies.

Same reason why we're seeing an epidemic of anti-Asian hate crimes in the US, perpetrated by blacks. Lots of angry young blacks who hate the fact that another "minority" is far more successful than they are because of insurmountable genetic and cultural advantages. Sure, blacks are over-represented in basketball and running for a different set of genetic advantages... but no-one really cares about success in sports.

FYI, I'm not jewish, nor am I asian. I'm just a relatively average white guy. But I'm not a jealous person and I'm willing to respect talent for what it is.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @clownworld 21 Aug 2023

I’m not an idiot. I’ve looked into all these issues for many years. My IQ is in the top 0.1% as well.

Obviously, their Nobel prize numbers are high, but appropriate for their IQ averages. Their overrepresentation in the ivy leagues though, is far beyond 20%, and not explainable by IQ.

170 sats \ 0 replies \ @02ad8239c2 21 Aug 2023

he went straight to the ad hom, lol - 3 times!