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442 sats \ 16 replies \ @iguano 21 Aug 2023 \ parent \ on: Lightning Labs: "BOLT12 offers - when the pigs will fly." bitcoin
Blockstream and ACINQ are now shitcoiners?
WOW
Blockstream has always been den of shit. Do real Bitcoin companies get 100s of millions in VC dollars just to disappear it into a Tether platform? No, but Blockstream does because they're a puppet organization.
If you knew nothing else about them, affinity scamming their client as "Core" is a blatant sign of their hostility.
ACINQ is a great lesson in why mobile nodes are a mistake and will never be viable receiving wallet. Instead of building a great LN implementation, ACINQ instead spent years fucking themselves into a corner with Phoenix.
Now that Phoenix distribution has peaked, LN hype has faded, and competitors like Breeze and LDK move shit to the cloud (predictably)... their efforts in Bolt12 are an sad attempt at mitigating issues with mobile nodes. They're desperate, Bolt12 can't fix those problems, and their Bolt12 work is counter-signal we can learn from.
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I have yet to see so many ignorant takes all at once on this site. Holy shit congrats, seriously.
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he is right that splicing and bolt 12 is peak phoenix, they are peaking so hard rn I can't stand it
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What are you even saying? Splicing and bolt 12 are game changers for many reasons including more protocol changes to come.
You can sit around speculating about who is the illuminati or boogie man you're afraid of while the rest of us build.
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Cope.
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Big ups for the Blockstream criticism, piemp. Don't hear too many Bitcoiners or maxis give them the shit they deserve for being the corporation that took over the majority of Bitcoin development, while projecting what they did onto the BCH team.
Everything else is a presumption of the worst case scenario, instead of seeing if things improve or not. I'd wait a bit first.
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BCH community is the toxiest community on crypto.
Nobody did anything to them, all the pain was self inflicted.
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Except for the fact that the guy whose company actually pulled off a corporate takeover of Bitcoin slandered them for "attempting" to do what Blockstream already did.
Say what will about the technical aspects of Cash and the team overall, but Adam Back is the Bitcoin equivalent to Vitalik Buterin: a massive piece of shit that contributes heavily to people leaving Bitcoin.
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Corporate takeover of bitcoin…
Nice try bcasher :)
What about Roger and Chinese corporations failed to take over bitcoin and now you have a shitcoin centralized in every level, being used by no one .
I prefer that version :)
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I argue there's utility in any non-Bitcoin crypto that shows its value.
Bitcoin, BCH and two privacy coins (Monero and Pirate) are all I care about. Everything else has fucked me, so I have no interest in it.
You also presume I wouldn't criticize Roger Ver for being very snaky with his "Bitcoin" sites and services. I'd respect him a hell of a lot more if he didn't have a site called "Bitcoin.com" and have it be predominantly about Bitcoin Cash. At the very least, crack jokes the way that community does and call Bitcoin "Blockstream Coin" while still differentiating between it and Cash.
Sure , seems legit
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Par for the course Bolt12 proponent, snark and evasion because your ideas are shit.
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It’s normal to avoid idiots.
I see you are getting used to it.
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