How much do you care about privacy? \ stacker news ~meta

2725 sats \ 21 comments \ @btcEnthusiast 27 Aug meta

A neat question, is what are you prepared to do to secure some additional privacy? How far will you go?

I deleted WhatsApp in 2017. Meant I was unreachable to so many. But people still found a way. To many that’s bonkers, to some a piece of cake.

I care more about privacy than Boomers and more than Gen Zers. The tools are out there, just not for the mainstream. That said, these are the folks that still don’t believe they need it.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @SpaceHodler 28 Aug

I wouldn't uninstall WhatsApp, I want to be reachable and able to reach others. I need it to secure work and for work.

It can't spy on me by me just having it installed on my phone. It can only read what I type into it. If I want to have a private chat with someone, the moment they message me on WhatsApp I can say "let's move this to TG".

In some countries WhatsApp is how you call and text people. If you want to make a dentist appointment or call a plumber, you need WhatsApp.

120 sats \ 1 reply \ @03365d6a53 28 Aug

Of course it can spy on you

It's literally a spy app - why do you think that facebook offer the product for free - altruism?

They collect your network graph, your contact list, all the metadata of everyone you chat with, sensor information (microphone, gyroscope etc) and god knows what else

Just because "everyone does it" does NOT make it right, as a collective we need to resist this mindset to just send all this data to facebook (and by extension, everyone that facebook sells it to) just because everyone else does

Facebook is not private

And neither is TG! Why move to TG?!!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 28 Aug

TG secret chats are private and most of my friends have TG. It's open-source. I could install SimpleX, but would have no one to use it with.

WA won't collect microphone data if you don't give it permission; Android won't let it. I have 7 sources of income and some of them depend on WhatsApp. I'm not letting them go, because that would mean less sat stacking for me.

22 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 27 Aug

A lot. I'm also lazy a lot.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 27 Aug

I feel this

128 sats \ 3 replies \ @Onions 27 Aug

Over the past few years, specially since covid, I have found myself slowly but surely caring more and more about privacy, and it has become an important aspect of my daily life. I have become more proactive in taking control of my privacy.

I will migrate to Graphene OS soon, and next year i will try to make the switch from Windows to Linux aswell.

While some might dismiss concerns about privacy as paranoia, I believe that being prepared for what the future holds is essential. The Matrix is real, and one day they will come for you, your family and your Bitcoins.

13 sats \ 1 reply \ @chairman_pretense 27 Aug

Made the switch to Linux and Graphene myself last year. The thing I would say, coming from any of the tightly integrated ecosystems, is you will drive yourself insane trying to replicate their experience.

Takes a bit of adapting to the FOSS way of doing things (which is typically chaining together a few reliable systems, rather than expecting a single seamless one).

Self hosting a NAS (contacts, calendars, documents and media etc.) was also a big leap, but one I haven't regretted.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 28 Aug

I'd move to GrapheneOS, but my banking apps would stop working and I'm still dependent on banking. There is online banking, but not all banks support it. Many are mobile only these days.

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @btcEnthusiast OP 27 Aug

I would go to the graphene os but it doesnt support my phone :/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ceife 5 Sep

Its important things

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bature_ 28 Aug

I hate being spied on, by anyone.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @shyfire 28 Aug

KYC is an attack vector used by governments to subvert Bitcoin

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nicosey 28 Aug

We have been fooled to not accept privacy by default.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 28 Aug

A lot.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @newnym 28 Aug

That's a private matter. You don't need to know. :)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @03365d6a53 28 Aug

I dare say I care more about the right to privacy, than actually being private

Of course this means practicing, nay, insisting on being able to:

not have a phone number
no GSF on Graphene
linux OS on laptop
avoid real name unless legally required
avoid banks as much as possible
no facebook products at all
bare minimum microsoft/google (mainly occasional search/maps and github)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @frostdragon 28 Aug

So, I have a lot of thoughts about the internet and privacy that I won’t repost here (just scroll through my comments via my profile).

But basically - I care enough to move as much of my life as I can off the internet. I still have a few social media accounts, but I’m rarely on them. I got a notebook and use that instead of to do/reminders/notes apps.

A wise person I knew used to say “don’t do anything you wouldn’t want on the front page the next day”, and I’m trying to apply that mentality to every interaction I have with the internet, unless it’s via open source, regularly maintained E2EE.

I post from an anonymous account for preferential reasons, but I still don’t post anything I couldn’t stand to have associated with me irl.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cyberpunk02 28 Aug

I think bitcoin means you will inevitably be surprised how much you should have cared. Future value of current privacy tracks bitcoin