My advice for people like Udi and maxis is you be you. This "toxic" culture will run its course. If bitcoin wins everyone will be using it and using it ways you will not support. They won't understand the why behind it. They will still think dumb things you disagree with.

I question anyone's logic that thinks in order for bitcoin to win we have to convince people to hold our views on a majority of issues. The better money will win. This is why I want bitcoiners to focus on its core value.