I will reward 500 sats for the right answer
30 sats \ 22 comments \ @DarthCoin 9 May 2022 bitcoin
I see many people bitching around x and y law that x and y gov enact against Bitcoin etc... Everybody is questioning the stupid law but NONE is question the "authority" of those who enact such laws.
So my question is (and I will reward for the right answer):
WHO gives the authority for a gov to put you, as a living wo/man under that law jurisdiction?
It's a very simple question.
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558 sats \ 3 replies \ @nullcount 9 May 2022
"You" give the authority.
Each individual is in control of their lives. You choose who to love, who to respect, who to ignore and who to follow.
Every cucked, tax-paying patriot is rulled by their own belief that they must be ruled.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Majjin 9 May 2022
Took the answer right out of my mouth
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
you will receive a consolation reward of 100
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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
Right answer!
And here is an explanation for those who still don't understand this aspect. The myth of authority Slavery by consent
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51 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick 9 May 2022
Government obtains its authority by enacting and enforcing just laws to keep the peace and defend negative rights. The majority of the sheep will defend the system because they believe without it their rights will be trampled by warlords and gangs. Simply put, people want a warlord they have some influence over through a vote and a representative rather than one they have no influence over. The system is dangerous to disobey because you, by design, are in the minority.
When the system becomes corrupt, it becomes unstable and the number of people willing to disobey authority grows large enough to threaten and discredit it. When the system is discredited, the perception of influence over your chosen warlord is destroyed. This is why the establishment is so afraid of Jan 6, they see it as a harbinger of collapse; even if the act itself had no direct effect.
Bitcoin fixes this. One does not need a government to enforce property rights when one's majority of property can't be taken by force. When property title is recorded on the blockchain, and can't be transferred without consent, it is very unprofitable to steal anything with an indelible and easily traced mark of ownership.
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101 sats \ 3 replies \ @kevkevin 9 May 2022
Their guns do
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3 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
Sorry wrong answer. That is your fear talking.
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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @kilianbuhn 9 May 2022
Then try resisting state authority and law. Let's see how long the guns stay only a theoretical fear ;)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
Stop funding "the guys with guns" and you will see how they stop coming to your door.... use Bitcoin
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @UlfMoby 9 May 2022
Only God can judge me.
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @JustDavids 9 May 2022
Give me 250 upfront first.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
That's what gov usually do: taxation (robbery).
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JustDavids 9 May 2022
You sound like you want everything for free. La la land.
250 upfront or no answer.
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1 sat \ 5 replies \ @itsrealfake 9 May 2022
There's lots of confusing discussions about the distinction between "Power" & "Authority"
https://keydifferences.com/difference-between-power-and-authority.html
Key Differences Between Power and Authority The difference between power and authority can be drawn clearly on the following grounds:
  1. Power is defined as the ability or potential of an individual to influence others and control their actions. Authority is the legal and formal right to give orders and commands, and take decisions.
  2. Power is a personal trait, i.e. an acquired ability, whereas authority is a formal right, that vest in the hands of high officials or management personnel.
  3. The major source of power is knowledge and expertise. On the other hand, position and office determine the authority of a person.
  4. Power flows in any direction, i.e. it can be upward, downward, crosswise or diagonal, lateral. As opposed to authority, that flows only in one direction, i.e. downward (from superior to subordinate).
  5. The power lies in person, in essence, a person acquires it, but authority lies in the designation, i.e. whoever get the designation, get the authority attached to it.
  6. Authority is legitimate whereas the power is not.
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1 sat \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
Authority is legitimate whereas the power is not.
Ok but how is "legitimate" if I do not consent to it? Who gives that "legitimacy"? Power comes after/with authority (I mean the power to coerce you).
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1 sat \ 3 replies \ @itsrealfake 9 May 2022
legitimate lə-jĭt′ə-mĭt adjective Being in compliance with the law; lawful. Being in accordance with established or accepted rules and standards. Valid or justifiable.
^^ definitions change... so, take that with a grain of salt.
but i would say Power supercedes Authority, as in the invaders who say "stop lecturing me about your laws, we have the weapons"
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
OK, I will not comply with that "law" because I do not consent it. The law is legitimate only for those who consent it.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @itsrealfake 9 May 2022
i'm not taking issue with the gist of what you've put forward.
neither am i suggesting that any particular law is just.
you asked a question regarding a topic that's discussed pretty extensively in political science/ political philosophy, i'm only bringing what limited expertise i have in that realm to bear on the conversation.
put another way, power is the ability to force/coerce. authority is the socially recognized ability to dictate.
when it comes down to it, they can't have my keys... nor do i think they have the computational abilities to find them. therefore, they don't have the power to take my bitcoin. they do however have the authority and (more fundamentally) the power to violate my liberties if i refuse to "comply" with their bullshit. that makes me want to get into the countryside asap.
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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 9 May 2022
appreciate
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @afizzycola 9 May 2022
It’s a Social Construction aka. a group’s shared belief: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @creativowinder 9 May 2022
they are all the individuals that make up the nation state, through the vote, being these representatives of the citizenry, something that does not happen much in real life, it is believed that the power is in the rulers, but it is not like that, it resides in the citizenship , that is why it is manipulated through different means.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 9 May 2022
Might makes right.
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