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788 sats \ 7 replies \ @elvismercury 2 Nov 2023 \ on: Stacker Saloon
Morning folks! Final reminder, there's been a lot of discussion over at the book club and there's so much room for anyone to poke and prod and give their perspectives on some giant topics.
I got a little carried away, maybe, with the prompts, and kept adding them till late in the evening, so if you checked in early, there's more to sink your teeth into. But this part of the book was really eye-opening, so I regret nothing. If you want to have hot takes to deploy this Thanksgiving, part 3 is where it's at for sure.
Thanks to everyone who took part, and to the zappers, who have been generous again!
I will check it out. When the book came out I read it, but I started again after you began the book club, reading more critically knowing you will pose challenging questions. I'm not quite caught up to where you are now. I can see these posts having a long life. If something occurs to me in the future I will want to discuss it further. Thanks once again for doing this.
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The specifics of this book club aside, I think the "long life" idea is really interesting. I would like it to have a long life too, if only so that people like you can find the posts when you want them, and feel like it's useful to participate in the discussion even once the smoke has cleared. Many topics -- both in and out of the btc space -- strike me as benefiting from the evergreen model.
This is really the opposite from the normal message board / forum / social media thing, where content goes stale immediately. But what social and technical developments could support such an interaction model? I don't think anyone really knows. Quora does it, I guess; Stackoverflow; and blogs. But SN does not fit any of those models.
Plus the desire for evergreen-ness is my own value, not a value that I know that the SN peeps necessarily hold, in which case the question becomes: can the thing I want be brought into existence through my own behaviors, with no special efforts by the people who are building the platform? Hmmm.
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@siggy47 and others hack around our limitations in this respect through their bios: https://stacker.news/siggy47
Some casual random ideas:
- a wikipedia-like explore page
- lists as first class citizens ie...
- lists ranked, browsable, and zappable
- lists that can contain lists
- better 'related' content recommendations
- add an 'explore related' action to any piece of content even comments
- make linking/searching past content native to the editor ... kind of like
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These are great. I like @siggy47's method a lot -- generally, I love when people find ways to use what's there in creative ways, and he did.
Other than that, I like all your ideas, esp #5. Being able to fluidly talk about and refer to other things is so key -- I think of it as capital formation: building new, more complex, and more valuable goods out of simpler goods.
I think perhaps a lower-hanging fruit that might support a number of these things is a kind of 'scrapbook' feature, where you can save little pieces of things: posts, comments, your own thoughts as pertain to those things. The existing notifications tab is kind of a poor man's version of this, for me -- I remember things that I've said or replied to, and they're in notifications, so that's how I find them again when I want to talk about them. Seems relatively easy (compared to the others) to do a half-baked version of that.
I guess I could just do that manually, with a text file or something? Maybe I'll try that and see how it works. Although I guess that's not a very good solution for the average user.
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Although I guess that's not a very good solution for the average user.
Definitely not.
The existing notifications tab is kind of a poor man's version of this, for me -- I remember things that I've said or replied to, and they're in notifications, so that's how I find them again when I want to talk about them.
This is interesting! I don't really use my notifications like that. I do go to my profile to look for my recent stuff though. hmmmm
Please share whatever you come up with! I find you guys invent better solutions for yourselves via hacks than whatever we'd come up with.
A few stackers put their first item number in their bios like, "I've been on stacker news since #1120" so we added that to everyone's profile. Likewise, seeing everyone organize their favorite posts on their bios has us thinking of building a feature to better support that.
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I'm going to drop by this evening again!
I like to really mull over the questions and I write really slowly.
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Running late. Not that anyone was waiting but I’m going to pop in after dinner.
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