It was important to know if the landlord gives you a rent receipt. If he does, I don't know how that works, and it could mess everything up. It also depends on the laws of the country. As for arguments to convince him, there aren't many, at least I don't see many. The main argument is that he should study bitcoin and then decide for himself if it's better for him or not. I think the biggest barrier will be the tax barrier.
I understand you are saying don't get caught, but some people can't afford to take that risk/don't want to take that risk. Do you describe your ideology as anarchist?
Is not about "being caught". Is about rebutting the whole authority and jurisdiction claimed by anybody over you, the living man.
You confront the taxman, you do not avoid it and hide from it.
I live under Socialism. My rebutting wont do shit. People voted for this crap. My wage gets taxed upfront, there is no way to avoid it. The only way i can get some of it back is trough tax benefits, like having a rent contract.
Rent is half my wage. With a contract i get like 20% back, it adds a lot. The landlord is the one that loses from having a contract he is the one paying the tax.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but in Portugal, landlords can get in trouble with the taxman if they're caught renting without a contract.
I understand the meme, what I don't understand is what it has to do with the landlord. We must be talking about different things. If the landlord wants to comply with the law, that's his decision.
My landlord for awhile was my father-in-law. I just asked him for a receiving address to his cold storage and sent him our agreed upon rent (converted the fixed USD rate to whatever it was in sats at that time). That’s how I orange pilled him. Our state has a renter’s property tax refund so he just filled that out for us with the dollar value of what I had paid to him (at time I sent it, not at what the bitcoin was worth at the end of the year). As far as the state is concerned, I was paying him in USD!
Well, sort of. You forgot to include the refund portion of my statement above, “renter’s property tax refund”. This is due to renters not getting the tax deduction benefits of paying the property tax like the landlord does.
While I don’t disagree, where I live taxes are something that you do have to pay unless you want to go to jail or risk going to jail. You are braver than me if you do not pay taxes. (Don’t tell anyone though because I don’t declare my “capital gains” from buying things with Lightning though. That’s an F’d up rule.)
No worry, Darth will not go to jail.
I was in front of a judge some times and I simply asked: "please show me any document, signed and consented by me, where I give to somebody else any authority or jurisdiction over me the living man."
Silence from the judge and the courtroom... I asked again and again, until the judge, declared cased closed and everybody went home, in peace.
If you do not know how to defend your sovereignty, you deserve to be a slave, for life.
This is extremely retarded. The offer is pay in bitcoin for a REDUCTION in rent for payment in bitcoin. You literally just said you think fiat is inherently more valuable than bitcoin, which is fucking retarded and pure LARPing. You obviously missed my talk from two days ago at Adopting Bitcoin.
To actually make it interesting, have a fraction denominated in bitcoin, and settle in whatever you want. example: 24 month lease at $2k a month is the ask. Instead, the rent can be $1.5k + 900k sats, or whatever you negotiate.
Welcome to multivariate, multidimensional price negotiation. It's an integral component to late stage fiat.
Oh, also, get a deposit to be a fixed amount of bitcoin instead of dollars.
Just ask. Asking and using BTC references in regular conversations just helps making Bitcoin a natural thing. Bitcoin is currency and meant for precisely these use-cases, people just need to be used to it.
You're probably going to think this sounds stupid, maybe that I'm shilling some nonsense, probably even— that trying this isn't even worth your time...
Over the last year or so, I've been gradually learning the skill of negotiation and I'm trying to spot opportunities in my personal and professional life where I can increase my "amicably resolved conflict" rate. So your question popped out at me as one that negotiation could help.
I started with Chris Voss' series on Masterclass which blew my mind— there's probably enough knowledge in here for you to go from zero to a creating a negotiation strategy and your landlord being very happy about accepting Bitcoin:
https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chris-voss-teaches-the-art-of-negotiation
You can approach your landlord by highlighting the potential benefits of accepting Bitcoin, such as faster transactions, reduced fees, and increased privacy. Emphasize Bitcoin's stability compared to other cryptocurrencies and offer a trial period for them to experience the process. Assure them of the security measures in place and share success stories of others who have adopted Bitcoin payments. Keep the conversation professional and be open to compromise, addressing any concerns your landlord may have.
Depends how badly you want to make this happen. You can always refuse to pay in fiat but you may want to try being nice first.
"Hi, I am writing to inform you that I have taken a job that pays me in Bitcoin only. Seeing as my income will be solely denominated in Bitcoin going forward, I would like to pay my rent in Bitcoin as well. Please let me know if you are open to this option."
If he says no then say "ok, I understand I will uphold my end of the lease and continue to pay in fiat but I will not be renewing unless given an option to pay in Bitcoin".
It is very costly for a landlord to lose a good tenant. Even in markets with low vacancy keeping the same tenant base if they are high quality tenants is always better than incurring the cost of touching up the space and looking for new tenants that might end up being deadbeats and not pay rent. Landlords don't usually want to take this risk unless they think they can get significantly higher rent from the new tenant.
If he still doesn't capitulate you can just stop paying rent and tell him you will pay in bitcoin but not fiat. If he is adamant on fiat he can evict you and try to collect in court (major pain in the ass). Obviously this wouldn't be your first play.