I think the technical "implementation" of one's adoption is secondary to their mindset.

Everyone running a full node is a pipe dream, at least for now, perhaps forever. You can't expect everyone to shell out a couple hundred $ for Raspberry Pi or an old computer + invest the time and effort to maintain their channels etc. to be considered a "proper user" of Bitcoin. Fiat system does not require this, so this expectation would actually be counter to adoption as defined by "number of users".

Regarding self-custody, I think we should acknowledge that custodial wallets are great for onboarding new users. It would therefore be hypocritical to discount users of these services as "adopters".

And custodial solutions are completely acceptable for holding small amounts. It's a risk management excercise of convenience (funds held on a well-connected node) vs NYK-NYC.

It's a long journey, custodial wallets are generally the first steps. I think ultimately you should always be working towards self-custody and running your own node.

Luke is a funny guy.

I was using WoS to orange pill as the experience is amazing. I hoped that it would show how fast, cheap & easy bitcoin can be. It would generate interest first & then they would go down the the education path.

Truth is very few people I tried to orange pill have adopted bitcoin. There one guy that has & has been DCAing throughout this bear market, but unfortunately still hasn't looked into it much.

So adopting bitcoin is a scale & there are a number of scales like security or spendability. It takes time.

To be a real adopter you MUST understand custody and the trade offs for using anything other than your own custodial solution - onboarding folks to WOS might have been a good first step for noobs, but you are doing them a disservice by not explaining the risks that come with a non-sovereign solution

All of the above so long as one does not stop until they learn and practice self custody and run a Bitcoin full node.

If real means ideal then Luke is right.

I tend to think of adoption as using Bitcoin to do a job. I know bitcoiners living on a bitcoin standard that don’t run a full node.

Lets not do purity tests ... ANY form of adoption is good (which has varying degrees by itself).

get someone through the door and then they will chose (via learning) which path to take and how to take it ... no need to impose anything on anyone (anyways, no one can do that so lets just stop with imposing things)

I disagree with Luke. Just wanting some qualifies as adoption.

Just using Bitcoin in any situation you would normally use other forms of currency

Custodial in the sense of community fedimints or ecash makes more sense than these big global wallets.

capital B, run a full node. lowercase, use btc as money in any way.

For custodial use of bitcoin to not be considered 'adoption', you would also have to believe that fiat has also never been adopted, since nobody is living purely off physical cash.

I think everyone has their own thresholds and tradeoffs. So how about treating people as adults and letting them to take their own decisions and responsibility for themselves. Bitcoin does what it has to do and doesn't care about the rest!

1 sat in self custody. The rest is just a paper promise!

I think these are all examples of Bitcoin adoption tailored to each individuals comfort level handling their finances. Of course I hope it trends to people using personal nodes and self custody, but custodial wallets onboard a lot of new users to the bitcoin ecosystem.

Self custody and personal node will be my best example of Bitcoin Adoption

Well I use the sats I accumulate here and store in Muun to buy gift cards from Bitrefill. Maybe it isn’t as fancy as using nodes and custodial wallet, but if no fiat is ever involved, I’d like to think that I’m an adopter too haha

A minority of node runners using self custody BTC/LN and the rest catch up on their own at their own pace. Define minority however you want but it's smaller than the laggards.

Pay my weekly pizza in Bitcoin.

In fact, I just orange pilled my favorite pizza napoletana shop :) Next step: grocery and bartender.

After you keep your Bitcoin in your wallet with your own private key, the wallet is open source

To me adoption is truly reach when merchant are all collecting payment in Bitcoin and any Grandma can make a Bitcoin transaction

Laws must be reformed. The taxes are needed for basic services like health, education, transportation etc. Paying with Bitcoin makes people uncertain. It's beautiful. But part of the revenues should be collected for services. Bitcoin adoption occurs when laws are restructured to prevent bribery and corruption.

If Luke Dashjr is a Bitcoin developer then Bitcoin adoption is using the software he contributed to. Unless using it by proxy/custodian for lack of a better term maybe that can qualify as adoption too.

Custodial BTC > Custodial-Anything-Else