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What is your preferred non-custodial lightning wallet?

1669 sats \ 28 comments \ @elysia 25 Nov 2023 bitcoin

BlueWallet7.5%

Electrum5.7%

Breez17.0%

Phoenix Wallet49.1%

Zap Wallet0.0%

Eclair Mobile0.0%

Muun Wallet1.9%

ZeusLN15.1%

Fully Noded0.9%

LNbits2.8%

106 votes \ poll ended

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150 sats \ 0 replies \ @moneyball 25 Nov 2023

Where's Mutiny?

136 sats \ 1 reply \ @petertodd 25 Nov 2023

Missing blixt.

While I can't actually recommend it to new users vs Phoenix, it is the one I actually use the most. I have it setup with channels to my own node for maximum privacy.

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 25 Nov 2023

39 sats \ 0 replies \ @hasherstacker 25 Nov 2023

Blixt Mutiny

29 sats \ 0 replies \ @SN023 25 Nov 2023

Zeus

29 sats \ 0 replies \ @nicosey 25 Nov 2023

Need to mention blixt. Great community, no hidden agenda, constantly shipping...

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 25 Nov 2023

ZEUS ALL DAY

But I do have a burning desire to be a LNBITS maxi

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 25 Nov 2023

Blixtwallet

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 25 Nov 2023

We just dropped a test release of ShockWallet yesterday, I think you'll like it.

https://bolt.fun/story/announcing-test-releases-of-shockwallet-and-lightningpub--1374

59 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 25 Nov 2023

When people will understand that there's no such thing as "preferred" or "best"? You are mixing mobile nodes with nodes management and suites. Noobs will be totally confused from this poll.

Choosing the right wallet depends on many factors. Just dropping a list of apps without even knowing all of them what are doing is not the right way. Learn about each one and choose the right one for each use case. Also never use only one wallet app... at least 2-3 ready.

Read here more about all wallets features: https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lightning-wallets-comparison

39 sats \ 0 replies \ @NYRK3661D 25 Nov 2023

Thank you for your wisdom, your guides have illuminated my path

28 sats \ 0 replies \ @senf 25 Nov 2023

People still voting for Muun... lol

28 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 25 Nov 2023

8 sats \ 3 replies \ @Coinosphere 26 Nov 2023

Great start, but doesn't mention anything to do with prices, which far more people care about than privacy. I wish someone would make a lightning wallet chart like this that compared the connection fees/minimums/times forced on chain so we could evaluate the overall costs to use the wallet. Not to mention a "tx failed in this case" chart.

8 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 26 Nov 2023

Fees over LN are NOT fixed ! Fees on LN depends 100% of the route that is taken by your payment, it doesn't depend of the LSP your are using. It is improper to say that X wallet have lower fees than Y wallet. There's no such thing in LN. All wallets follow the general rules of LN: pay the fastest and cheaper route for a payment.

Now if you refer to fees for opening channels, also those depend on the mempool fees of the moment you open the channel. On top of that yes, some LSP will charge you an extra fee because THEY are the ones putting the liquidity for you, so that HAVE A COST.

Noobs MUST understand that LN is NOT FREE ! Everything have a cost.

You can't make a chart like that one based on fees, it's almost impossible, because you will never know how much are the opening channels fees and the payment fees.

Please learn first how LN works, there's tons of documentation out there.