Tell me where you see the word "blockchain" on Bitcoin Whitepaper. I will wait.
Tell me where you can see "Not your keys, not your coins" in the Bitcoin Whitepaper :)
It's TIMECHAIN not BLOCKCHAIN.
It's called being pedantic
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no they didn't. they hijacked your brain
i can literally use "crypto" in a sentence and the context makes it clear that i am talking about cryptography:
"let's do some basic crypto. we're going to use AES256 in CBC mode and then show you how you can attack this using a padding oracle attack."
see?
and if it's not clear, the other person is at fault for not realizing that even the word "crypto" in "cryptocurrencies" stands for "cryptography"
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this is actually a very interesting topic. it's not limited to "crypto" and "cryptocurrencies" vs "cryptography"
it's also relevant in other areas of life like how should you call some groups of people:
Should you use the term they used to use for themselves? Or should you give them a new term? Should we stop using the term the colonists gave them because they were meant in a derogatory way even though they might use the term for themselves now? Is calling "Indians" "Indians" (native american) racist because Columbus thought he arrived in India but actually landed in America? Should we stop using the original term since we don't belong to the group so we don't have the "right" to use the original term? And then even start to tell them even they themselves can't use their own original word ... and so on ...
if you want to do some research, read up the "controversy" around the term "Eskimo". For example:
Confused about the word Eskimo?
It's a commonly used term referring to the native peoples of Alaska and other Arctic regions, including Siberia, Canada and Greenland. It comes from a Central Algonquian language called Ojibwe, which people still speak around the Great Lakes region on both sides of the U.S.-Canadian border. But the word has a controversial history. (Editor's note: And that's why it's not used in the stories on Greenland that NPR has posted this week.)
People in many parts of the Arctic consider Eskimo a derogatory term because it was widely used by racist, non-native colonizers. Many people also thought it meant eater of raw meat, which connoted barbarism and violence. Although the word's exact etymology is unclear, mid-century anthropologists suggested that the word came from the Latin word excommunicati, meaning the excommunicated ones, because the native people of the Canadian Arctic were not Christian.
But now there's a new theory. According to the Alaska Native Language Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, linguists believe the word Eskimo actually came from the French word esquimaux, meaning one who nets snowshoes. Netting snowshoes is the highly-precise way that Arctic peoples built winter footwear by tightly weaving, or netting, sinew from caribou or other animals across a wooden frame.
But the correction to the etymological record came too late to rehabilitate the word Eskimo. The word's racist history means most people in Canada and Greenland still prefer other terms. The most widespread is Inuit, which means simply, "people." The singular, which means "person," is Inuk.
Of course, as with so many words sullied by the crimes of colonialism, not everyone agrees on what to do with Eskimo. Many Native Alaskans still refer to themselves as Eskimos, in part because the word Inuit isn't part of the Yupik languages of Alaska and Siberia.
But unless you're native to the circumpolar region, the short answer is: You probably shouldn't use the word Eskimo.
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Should you use the term they used to use for themselves? Or should you give them a new term?
The terms "chain", "blocks", "chain of blocks", "proof-of-work chain", "timestamp server" and "timechain" are all mentioned in the whitepaper and code. As far as I know, the term "blockchain" was never explicitly mentioned. I'm not even sure why or when people started calling it that. So, I don't really mind if shitcoiners have that term for themselfs.
Personally, I don't feel the need to come up with new terms or enforce them on shitcoiners.
They can have "crypto", and I'll stick with "Bitcoin". They can have "blockchain," and I'll go with "timechain", "timestamp server" which are the correct terms mentioned by satoshi.
There's no need to change anything imo.
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all I can think about is shitcoinery, not "cryptography". Most people feel the same way, it's really sad.
maybe the difference is just that i liked cryptography before i got into bitcoin. and we were using crypto all the time to mean cryptography.
my interest in cryptography probably lead me to bitcoin in the first place.
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I doupt most people even know what cryptography is, maybe that's just me making an assumption. There are so many non-tech savy people buying shitcoins as an "investment", they don't care about the cryptography part.
For them "crypto" = "digital coins/token"
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i am going to tell them: "hey, that's great, i also like cryptography!"
because i can be mindful about how i choose my words
and assumptions are bad. never assume anything. ask for clarification, don't assume. i almost lost a job once because i assumed too much, lol
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no ! --- timestamp network ---
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it's "timestamp server" on the whitepaper, but he did mention the term "timechain" on the code. you can call it "chain" or "chain of blocks" or "proof-of-work chain" or whatever, i just hate the term blockchain due all the shitcoiners
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So shitcoiners live rent free in your head? :)
Sorry, I'm just having fun, don't necessarily want to pick a fight
@ekzyis internally: fight me bro, 1v1, I'll rek u
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I get you.
I just don't think that's a solution that scales.
Imo, imagine bitcoiners are hanging out in a pool and having a great time and then some shitcoiners show up and literally shit in the pool. Are we just going to leave the pool to them now?
No, we should make them clean up and then tell them gtfo
That's how I like to think about this.
It's not as simple though, I agree :)
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imagine bitcoiners are hanging out in a pool and having a great time and then some shitcoiners show up and literally shit in the pool
i don't want to imagine that 😅😂😂😂😂😂
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In spanish whitepaper we can see "marcas de tiempo" (timestamp) and "cadena de bloques" (chain of blocks), the fact is when we see most english speakers call it blockchain, we assume is the correct word 😅
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lol, you're right. the exact term "time chain" (or "timechain") does not seem to appear in the whitepaper
but i think @Onions was referring to this section:
and to be fair, @Onions did not say that "time chain" appears in the whitepaper. only that "blockchain" does not.
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"blockchain" is has been dragged through the mud and it's not mentioned on the code or white paper, call it whatever you want, that word just triggers me 😅
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