Btw, sorry for doubling down on this, but this is quite an important topic for me so I thought more about this and had a funny thought:

Is there even such a thing that is not temporary? Even your life is temporary. Does your life not have value to you? Isn't your life being only temporal what actually gives it value?

I know, I might be nitpicking  this argument now:

> Temporary value doesn't exist in my book. Would I buy a toaster if it's just going to disappear in one week?

But I think it's important to be precise, especially when we argue _against_ something.

Else we might be talking past each other and then this whole discussion might have minimal value, lol :) 

@ delete posts...not a fan 

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What about renting stuff? Renting something has no value to you? 