Experience has taught me that the simpler the better. A retirement savings plan, an SP500 or world etf and Bitcoin with biannual reinforcement are enough.

Technically, no. I have a retirement plan, but I'm pretty sure the financial institution own the actual shares. I think what I "own" are claims on hypothetical profits/losses from buying and selling the funds that I chose.

Currently no. But did (and probably will again some day). I'm not ideologically opposed to ownership of physical items or real estate or companies or securitization of companies.

For those that say no... I'd also be curious if people have thought about investing in independent energy infrastructure as an alternative form of tax-free dividend (for mining or otherwise). Only just considered it in those terms recently.

Yes. I just buy/ invest companies that fit my world view. This is the beauty of a somewhat free market. Companies leverage capital to solve problems to bring goods and services to the masses.

Voted for no.

I still don't know if I am better off because I completely skipped tradfi or not when it comes to "investing" / caring about my future more / lowering my time preference.

However, I still have plans to buy some MSTR or RIOT shares (or other public bitcoin mining companies); just for the sake of getting some "tradfi experience".

For example, I realized stocks are not available everywhere. I can't just download any neobroker app and expect that I can buy any stock from there. At least that's what I found out when I last looked into it iirc. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I hold stocks in good public traded companies, and while I would love to go 100% BTC, I cannot let go of tradfi. Its not as simple as saying all public traded stocks are a fiat scam. Yes, we denominate them in fiat, but they can represent equity in something much larger than even Bitcoin (today).

I like the website https://8marketcap.com to put things in perspective. Apple is worth more than all the BTC on earth today. Likewise, all the gold on Earth could buy Apple 3 times over.

And with things like IRA's and 401K's, there are tax advantaged reasons to hold tradfi instruments in these accounts, legally reducing your taxable income. Until we have such vehicles with Bitcoin, there will be reasons that public equity (stocks), debt (bonds) have advantages over cryptocurrency (currency).

I don't own any but if I should it might be on my own company

I do not. Before coming into Bitcoin I must have read 20-30 investment books all centered around the stock market. Never once did I pull the trigger on buying a stock. It just never made sense to me. It felt like a delusion but I could never figure out how to verbalize it. Than Saylor comes in and explains it crystal clear.

No moral judgement on anyone that does. It just feels fake.

Yes, there are some tax sheltered accounts of mine that cannot be sold for Bitcoin (ISAs, SIPPs). So I invest those into Bitcoin adjacent stocks instead (MSTR and the miners).

A couple months back I took a punt on opening up a S&S LISA for the year and putting it all into the aforementioned stocks. So far it's up 75% and CGT is exempt, so pretty good going.

I have a retirement account that has stocks in it but I sold all the stocks in brokerage account over the last couple of years and bought more bitcoin. The market is way overvalued.

Lol yes I do, but I don't care about them and I don't check up on them, there are a few companies here locally that sold shares on special programs to get more "black ownership" so yeah my dad bought those for me and gave it to me those are the only stocks I hold directly

Anything else would be through retirement funds set up during my time working at different companies and well you can't really do shit with it, I made my peace that all those investments are going to zero in Bitcoin terms

and stack accordingly

Some options on Mara

Everyone should own some stocks full stop. 99.9999% of people with any material amount of wealth do. You know who doesn’t impoverished nations. It’s a blessing, don’t blow it! Your future self will thank you!

I have minimal exposure. Not sure I like the increasingly invasive kyc element to speculating on shit.

I recently started buying VZ in a retirement account since I pay them so much every month

Yes some shares in a few companies. Interestingly, the long-term view of all investors mirrors currency devaluation after the short-term volatility is smoothed out. The average return of traditional markets (i.e., S&P, gold, real estate) is very close to the last 100 years 7% yearly inflation. Only bitcoin has and might continue to fight these headwinds

It's not possible for a person to legally own stocks. You can only be a creditor to the entity that does own them.

all other "assets" are bleeding ice cubes against bitcoin over the long term. I suspect it will take decades and decades to learn this..

if you aren't the DTCC you dont actually own any public stocks. you might have a receipt but you dont own them. Not your keys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk3AVceraTI

I've been investing in Bitcoin-focused companies and mining stocks for a while now, and it's definitely been a profitable venture for me! Can't wait to see the results of this poll.

Nop, I don't own jack

Coinbase went public some months ago, maybe I can get their stock