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20 sats \ 15 comments \ @jk_14 26 Dec 2023 christianity

Jesus offers his Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard. In it, a landowner hires some laborers to pick grapes. Near the end of the day, he realizes he needs more workers to get the job done. To recruit them, he agrees to pay a full day’s wage for just one hour of work. When one of the laborers who had worked an entire day complains, the landowner answers:

"I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money?"

That’s a testament to the principles of supply and demand, of private property, and of voluntary contracts, not socialism.

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376 sats \ 5 replies \ @Scholarhacker 26 Dec 2023

I tend to agree, but be careful about extrapolating the stories Jesus told in parables into a broader message than the one intended.

Sam Harris does this with the The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant and draws a very incorrect conclusion.

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @jk_14 OP 26 Dec 2023

"Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money?"

It's not any extrapolation. That's his strict sentence, used as a understandable starting point for people of those times (just to better explain the God's generosity)

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @Scholarhacker 26 Dec 2023

But speaking this line in the context of a parable, where it represents what Jesus is trying to say about His kingdom, is different than expressly stating a pro-private property statement.

God is sovereign, He has the right to do with his creation whatever He wants. That's the theological point.

It would be wrong to conclude from the Parable of the annoying neighbor that Jesus is proscribing becoming an annoying neighbor. Rather, the annoying neighbor, which is a relatable story, helps to illustrate a greater theological point.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @jk_14 OP 26 Dec 2023

Jesus to be well understood - he was obligated to use something well understandable to surrounding people as a starting point of any his parable.

So this (economic) statement had to be:

well understandable for those people
inline with Jesus point of view

(hint: if you plan to convince other people to your parable - you simply must build it on a thing that you are already convinced to, this is beyond any dispute)

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @CUMDUMPSTER 27 Dec 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jk_14 OP 27 Dec 2023

“If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry.”

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 31 Dec 2023

Jesus wasn't a socialist. He actually fed people. Socialism destroys lives and steals. Jesus taught sacrificial love, putting others first, and forgiveness. Jesus taught us to do the will of the Father. Humans try to put Jesus in our man made systems. That's the mistake. We should be following His example not trying to prove He is on our side.

Many Christians have been so influenced by the world that they miss this. They are blind to the idols in their lives like politics. You see this in both right and left politics. Jesus transcends all of this. Jesus came to transform the hearts of people through His sacrifice. He won by "losing".

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 26 Dec 2023

Jesus wasn't a socialist, but I don't think this parable is about economics. It's about how God's will and generosity won't necessarily conform to our human expectations about what we "deserve". Hence the repeated saying of "the last will be first and the first last", which brackets the beginning and end of the parable in Matthew 19:30 and Matthew 20:16

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jk_14 OP 26 Dec 2023

I don't think this parable is about economics

obviously, parable is not about economics, but to start with parable, he was obligated to use something well understandable to surrounding people as a starting point, and this starting point was taken strictly from economics

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @CUMDUMPSTER 26 Dec 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jk_14 OP 26 Dec 2023

"out of context", lol

Jesus to be well understood - he was obligated to use something well understandable to surrounding people as a starting point of any his parable.

So this (economic) statement had to be:

well understandable for those people
inline with Jesus point of view

(hint: if you plan to convince other people to your parable - you simply must build it on a thing that you are already convinced to, this is beyond any dispute)

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @AJ1992 26 Dec 2023

Wrong. Jesus 100% taught views that align with socialism. I bet you think he was white with blonde hair and spoke English too, don't you? 🤡🤡