Also [RemNote](https://www.remnote.com/)... 

Same as with any note taking / todolist app... they are never perfect and there's always someone to come and say "I'll create the perfect one"

Roam is the one. Cool to see they're still kicking.

There's also [Athens](https://www.athensresearch.org/), [Roam](https://roamresearch.com/) and [logseq](https://logseq.com/)... one of those?

nout

What was that graph note app that was popular awhile ago? That initially focused on ml researchers

k00b

Daily discussion thread

saloon

I'm really enjoying working with [Obsidian](https://obsidian.md/). 

It's quite easy to adjust it exactly to your needs with couple plugins and you can also completely update the interface, hide all distractions, etc (Yay for Chrome based apps that have DevTools integrated and allow easy css overwriting)

I don't use any of the MOC, or graph visualization stuff... but for my various notes and TODO lists it's perfect... 