reply on: Bitcoiner and Socialist \ stacker news ~bitcoin

pull down to refresh

2811 sats \ 8 replies \ @TomK 27 Jan \ on: Bitcoiner and Socialist bitcoin

Part of my family came from East Germany, a socialist country. No one in their right mind or who has had this experience would ever want to spend a single day in such perverse conditions of ignorance, of artificial stultification by an encroaching state. The free market is the most sophisticated vehicle that human civilization has yet invented and implemented to articulate individual will and promote free decision-making. So far, nothing better is in sight. And no: the values that Bitcoin implies are not congruent with those that socialism entails. It's the opposite.

814 sats \ 3 replies \ @tomlaies 27 Jan

Part of my family came from East Germany, a socialist country. No one in their right mind or who has had this experience would ever want to spend a single day in such perverse conditions of ignorance, of artificial stultification by an encroaching state.

As a German too: EXACTLY.

American Champagne-socialists should just make a long vacation through eastern Europe. Talking to people who actually went through this. Look at the scars it made through society and individual people. How central planning first slowly and then accelerating faster and faster encroached on every part of life everywhere. It leads unstoppable to authoritarian oppression.

209 sats \ 2 replies \ @TomK 27 Jan

The young generation really has no idea what they're talking about. But with a little luck they will make their experience with this mental virus.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @bief57 27 Jan

Socialism cannot be explained, you have to suffer it to understand, if you survive, what it is about. It is not worth arguing with soulless people who live in free countries, eat three times a day and support the left from their iPhone. Being a bitcoiner is the complete opposite of socialism.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK 27 Jan

Thank You. Clear and straight words on the biggest stink bomb men threw on men so far

56 sats \ 3 replies \ @davidw 27 Jan

Well said. Would love to hear more of a write-up from you and your family’s perspective if you can muster the motivation to share that.

121 sats \ 2 replies \ @TomK 27 Jan

I have thousands of little histories, from terrible border control to spy action, alcoholism and brutality within destroyed families for us. But also a lot of funny and crazy stuff about these years. Maybe I'll do something on this.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 27 Jan

I would love hear more on your perspectives and experiences of your family. I think we need more real stories. The socialist pitch sounds so good to young people. The reality is far different. I'm planning on sharing some of my thoughts that this post spurred next week but I'm would rather hear from people that have real experience under full socialism.

The reality is that there are few truly socialist societies. Most are a mix of free market and social welfare. There are zero truly free societies. So we get into dumb arguments missing the broader point. Socialism is immoral. Free markets are amoral. Systematized theft will never lead to human flourishing.

378 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK 27 Jan

Nice of You that You ask for this. I will try to put some real memories of the 80s together, maybe a first blink into this epoch of our life tomorrow. In a way it was wild as we were living right beside a big buildibg where british soldiers of the occupation army were living under the constant threat of IRA attacks....