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Hayao Miyazaki needs no introduction. He is the brains behind world-acclaimed movies like “Spirited Away” and “My Neighbour Totoro”. Tickets to his Studio Ghibli attraction in Tokyo are highly sought after. Tourists typically have to jump through hoops before getting their hands on the tickets. Hence, I thought he would be the right person to frame this discussion.
Expectedly, Miyazaki san holds a negative attitude towards Gen-AI. This is what he has to say:
Hayao Miyazaki has spent his lifetime honing his craft and reached an exceptional level in which he can reliably rely on his creative juices and wits. But most of us could use an assistant. From coding and writing to artwork and music, Gen-AI tools could help us overcome creative slumps and remove our inadequacies.
Certain Science journals like Nature are more receptive to the use of ChatGPT and other LLMs. Articles that cite ChatGPT as an author have been published successfully. Other journals hold a more critical attitude and forbid the use of LLMs.
How about you? What is your yardstick in regard to this revolutionary and nascent field? When will you use Gen-AI to better your design principles and products? At which point would you consider as crossing the line?
Zapping some sats to @Design_r in recognition of his tireless energy in managing this territory xP
All of Hayoa's work will get a NumPy Array treatment and be thrown through the bars to feed the Ai beasts. Crossing the line currently seems to be exactly there: training models on active artists' work or work that isn't yet in the public domain. There's no stopping it. This early in the growth cycle of Ai those crossing lines have big advantages. Anyway, I feel art has already been through a few of these over the last 3 centuries.
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What’s a NumPy Array treatment? Forgive my ignorance
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sorry, it refers to the formatting imaging goes through for certain ai models to manipulate.
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art has already been through a few of these over the last 3 centuries
What are you referring to?
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printing press, camera, film, copier, digitization, software, etc, all had profound effects on art. They all became powerful categories and tools for artistic expression and preservation. Ai is no different I feel. Really exciting frontier.
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Thanks for explaining. Yes I agree with you. It's a technology at our service
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337 sats \ 1 reply \ @phatom 16 Feb
Generative A.I is not for everyone, it might seen too derivative so he is opting to keep his creative originality pure
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No need for him to descend to the common playing fields with plebs like us haha
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237 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 16 Feb
Ultimately the market gets to decide, not the artist or the author.
There's an interesting dynamic at play here though, because humans are sentimental and ascribe value beyond pure functionality. The story and effort behind a thing is also important. I think you could also argue that human labor is scarcer than generative AI labor, and thus acquires some sort of value there too.
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Ohhh I like your last sentence about the scarcity of human labour. Because we are unique individuals and our work is idiosyncratic
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Miyazaki is such a boss. I didn't think my respect for him could get any higher, but it just did.
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I feel the same way too. There’s something comfort about his declaration in regard to how his work is always 💯 human-driven
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Thanks for sharing. Will watch it later
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One could argue faith in ourselves brought us here where we are immersed in our own creations. It seems we're grappling with what exactly is the sacred part of creation. Where should we draw a line between tools like the pen, paintbrush and digital algorithm?
For me and at this point it's all in the product. So far people have been using these tools clumsily so it's easy to see the glitches and the overly detailed yet meaningless renderings of nonsense. My reaction is to look backward and to hold onto the past, for now.
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I love your reaction. I tend to perceive AI as impressive generations, but really, those DALL-E images have lots of room for improvement
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 16 Feb
This form of romance seems more common among the Japanese. I hope it endures if only to serve as some kind of memorial to what we were once capable of. It reminds me of aging Yakuza refusing to adopt guns.
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aging Yakuza
The same happen in the US with the Amish and other communities refusing to adopt technology. Just recently, they are starting to use phones! It is hard to find balance between preserving culture and innovate. I like as you expressed, memorial to what we were once capable of.
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Indeed. Other examples are young girls practising to become Geishas or traditional craftsmen inheriting time-honoured techniques passed down from one generation to another
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I honor the Man for his true passion of Art... although I'm using AI fairly often in my art posts... There pretty interesting results when you use analog painting as base image for generative art ;) That's my humble opinion.
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Some of these Gen AI images look so adorable ngl haha
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