Excess mortality crisis in some parts of the world \ stacker news ~charts

Excess mortality crisis in some parts of the world

3533 sats \ 18 comments \ @erict875 20 Feb charts

Why it matters:

We would expect lower mortality rates after the pandemic (as it's currently the case in Romania or Hungary for example — See chart).
The excess mortality affects predominently young people.
The deaths are non-covid related (various infections due to weaker immunity, cardio-vascular diseases).
Governments are still silent on the issue.
Imminent deployment of new therapies based on the mRNA technology.

The common denominator seems to be the covid spike protein. Plausible causes for the excess deaths are:

Vitamin D deficiency and repeated exposures to the spike protein through covid re-infections or multiple covid booster shots. See: #390016
blood clots. See: #430414

Sources:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=USA~JPN~GBR~DEU~HUN~ROU~AUS

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78 sats \ 0 replies \ @koqoo 20 Feb

Covidiots

65 sats \ 12 replies \ @oliverweiss 20 Feb

Could you please share pre-covid19 numbers?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @erict875 OP 20 Feb

I don't remember the exact official definition, but I think 2019 is the baseline. Dr Campbell has mentioned it several times in his videos on the subject

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 20 Feb

Covid data is compared to average over 2015-2019. Fair enough. I wonder whether it makes any sense to compare pre- and post-vaccination data in the covid 19 years. First vaccine was approved in Dec 2020, I believe; vaccines were available for masses in Q1, or rather Q2 2021.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 Feb

I agree that you'd want to see pre and post, but the nature of "excess deaths" is that it should be zero on average. It's a measure of deaths above or below trend.

124 sats \ 8 replies \ @oliverweiss 20 Feb

Ok. Let’s see how the numbers go. For me, more striking is what happened in the years 2020-2022 than what’s happening now. Also I think a better telling picture would be looking at a yearly data relative to average of the previous five or so years to that year.

124 sats \ 4 replies \ @erict875 OP 20 Feb

We know what caused the excess mortality between 20-22. We don't know exactly what's causing the current one, especially because governments are not cooperating. Anyway, we shouldn't have an excess death crisis post pandemic, on the contrary, considering the most vulnerable population had already died between 20-22. Also keep in mind that a huge chunk of those dying now are still young, which is concerning...

124 sats \ 3 replies \ @oliverweiss 20 Feb

Also keep in mind that a huge chunk of those dying now are still young, which is concerning

I believe this was the case of a Spanish flu, wasn’t it? As far as I remember from a documentary, there was a second or third wave where young people were mostly killed by their own immune system (cytokines storms).

124 sats \ 2 replies \ @erict875 OP 20 Feb

I'm not sure, but aren't cytokines storms caused by the virus itself? In this case it's different because the pandemic is over, and we're dealing with non-covid related deaths. I'm not really very well equipped for a detailed discussion on these technical details, so hopefully someone with more credentials will chime in and clarify.

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 20 Feb

aren't cytokines storms caused by the virus itself?

They're an immune response, but not necessarily to the virus itself. In the case we're talking about, they could hypothetically be a reaction to spike proteins produced internally.

124 sats \ 0 replies \ @erict875 OP 20 Feb

Gotcha! Thanks for clarifying. Agree on the spike protein, I think that is what they're suspecting is indeed happening.

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 Feb

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, this is compared to the previous five years.

124 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss 20 Feb

What I mean is to compare 2024 to average of 2019-2023, then 2023 to average of 2018-2022.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 Feb

Gotcha. I think that is the more conventional approach with excess mortality. It reduces noise quite a bit.

72 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 20 Feb

very interesting, thanks for the detailed assessment and links to sources!

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 20 Feb

Dr. John Campbell on YouTube has been reporting on this excess mortality for a while now. He has over 3 million subscribers. Great info.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @zarko 20 Feb

they literally injected a bio-factory of spike protein into peoples organism

what would you expect?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 20 Feb

The common denominator seems to be the covid spike protein.

Remember to take your boosts people.. We have a trend to keep here