Youngsters more optimistic than adults, people of the less developed countries more than those in developed ones. I wonder why. Many other charts like these two can be found here https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Gates-goalkeepers-youth-optimism?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR3-37JYnA4AyEeh-KhYE7ZRfjc0i93E46FsL1NrQibPu-24tuvL40mzoo4
2057 sats \ 7 replies \ @tomlaies 29 Feb
Yes.
People have a bias towards pessimism because they want to sound smart. Pessimists get attention. But optimists keep winning - worldwide hunger and extreme poverty is falling and falling. Literacy and access to plumbing&electricity keep rising and rising. At least as seen from decade to decade.
Old wallstreet wisdom: Pessimists sound smart, optimists make money instead.
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888 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Feb
It's much easier to see flaws than potential, because there are usually way more ways to fail than there are to succeed.
I also think we're inclined to overweight problems, because we evolved to be risk averse. Risk neutrality probably gets confused for optimism and risk neutrality yields optimal returns.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @south_korea_ln 1 Mar
Completely agree. The few people i have muted here are the ones that day in day out post about some random graph showing how the end of the world is near. Sat farming and negativity, both annoying.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @zarko 1 Mar
meanwhile freedom is also falling
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @tomlaies 1 Mar
Which freedom have you lost? Is it just a vague feeling or have you actually lost any rights? Unless you're in mainland china where 1/6 of the world population actually did loose significant freedoms of movement and speech.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @zarko 2 Mar
I live in Brazil
freedom here is down the hill
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @tomlaies 2 Mar
I'm not a fan of the Lula government.
But what freedom of yours has been touched specifically?
I don't like vague statements about vibes. Give me the hard facts.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zarko 2 Mar
Freedom of speech is gone
People are being arrested for criticize or protest the government
Journalists had to leave to country to avoid jail, just for telling the truth. Some of them went to jail. Comedians are being jailed just for make jokes about LGBTs or government corruption.
Opposition politicians are being arrested and loosing their mandate just for critizing government, using their constitutional rights
Covid vaxx are now mandated for kids younger than 5 years old.
It's a mess
Judges dont give a shit about constitution. They create laws as they wish
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607 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 29 Feb
Wow - China is more optimistic than the US? I wonder how accurate this is. From news reports that I see, hope for the future has plummeted in China.
Check out videos such as China’s Slacker Youths: Why They Went From 'Lying Flat' To 'Let It Rot' - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GJ7S-nKmAr4. This is apparently a real theme in China.
Here's another one - Despairing ‘Ten No’s Youth’ Emerge, Proclaiming China’s Last Generation’s Resignation to Lying Flat - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cS2S8gZ9mRA
So, it really makes me wonder about this survey.
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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 29 Feb
I can imagine that if some Chinese state officials were asking me as a Chinese, I would probably tend to speak in a positive tone. On the other hand I know Ipsos a bit, so I would expect they took care of this.
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397 sats \ 0 replies \ @KeynesianClowns 29 Feb
Clear trend that people in the west are discouraged about the future, and they should probably should be for all the reasons most are well acquainted with by now.
Overall, I think this becomes a question of time preference. Over the short-term, it is easier to become discouraged. Over the long haul, innovation will continue to find a way (as much as governments try to beat it down) to continue improving the living conditions of the world's population as long as people are willing to do the work.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @CoinHead 29 Feb freebie
Absolutely, I have faith in humankind. No matter the obstacle to our pursuit of happiness we have always overcome it. In the dark times it has taken coercion and the suppression of the truth in order to get humans to engage in evil, but when the time comes that humans begin to think with their rational minds they begin to trade value for value and lift each other up by lifting themselves up. Life, and capitalism is not a zero sum game and there will always be plenty for all if we allow ourselves to be the the best version of ourselves.
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126 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr 29 Feb
awesome charts, and interesting to see the divergence between young and old.
i wonder if it’s always been that way or if this trend is more pronounced today than it usually is…
fwiw, i’m optimistic about the future of the world.
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634 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 29 Feb
No idea whether historical data exists, it would be nice to compare. This study is from 2018 though, so before covid19. It is worth to check other charts too (if you scroll down there is a link to the topline record)
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303 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 29 Feb
When you are young the world is your oyster
As you age you become more realistic or jaded or cynical
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120 sats \ 1 reply \ @MattInTech 29 Feb
Hell no. Why would you ever be?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 29 Feb
agreed. thinks look grim me thinks
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41 sats \ 2 replies \ @398ja 1 Mar
I wonder if there is a correlation with the fertility rate, ie the more optimistic, the more children tend to have...?
#437099
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @oliverweiss OP 1 Mar
It could be, yes. China would be likely an outlier.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @398ja 1 Mar
We could discount China, because of the artificial one-child policy.
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @OriginalSize 29 Feb
What the... Russians adults are more optimistic than Americans?
From TFA: Youth is 12-15 and Adult is 16+. I suspect that biases this toward null hypothesis because I'm pretty sure the ignorance that best explains optimism extends on into the 20s or 30s.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 29 Feb
They should have classified by year of birth: before or after 1980
Or under / over 40 years old
Median age in USA is 38 years
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @quark 29 Feb
The french may know something... Adults know what they did to the planet and the debt they leave to the next generations. Youngsters are still learning about it. Children are even more optimistic (in general). The more you live and learn the more pessimistic you get. It makes sense.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 29 Feb
You know why the Gallic rooster is a national symbol of France as a nation? Because that’s the only animal that can sing while standing in the shits. I always liked this attitude of French people. However, there are masses on the far right side, on the far left side (you can even meet Trotskyists you won’t find in Russia anymore), once I passed through the protesters asking for the revival of the 3rd or 4th republic… so I guess, pretty much everyone there might have a reason to be unhappy and pessimistic.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 1 Mar
Long term yes, short term no
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nikos 29 Feb
Yes, I’m because Bitcoin will save the world guys!
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @_b_o_n_e_s_ 1 Mar
I wasn't until I learned about bitcoin
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DudeJLebowski 1 Mar
If Bitcoin didn't exist - absolutely not.
But, it does, so yes.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 1 Mar
Ultimately, yes. Locally, not as much.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshis_Code 29 Feb
Yes!
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitByBit21 29 Feb
I think the view of "the world" is quite individual, so it is subject to personal circumstances. Each one has their own view based on their particular situation, so I think it is hard to agree on a common view. The thing we call "the world" is a changing substance.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 29 Feb
Almost WW3 and 2030 WEF agenda, so no.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @oraltosun 29 Feb
When we look at the rate of depletion of the world's resources, it will be understood how bad the situation is.
While production is carried out as if resources are unlimited, there is a similar logic in the consumption part.
While some people are struggling with hunger, some are in abundance
If everyone understands each other's situation and helps, there is hope.
And if we know that resources are limited and act accordingly, if we consume only what we really need, then there is hope.
Since none of those are unavailable, it is normal to be pessimistic.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 29 Feb
Birth rates are falling in the first world. That is a sign of pessimism
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 29 Feb
Nope, i'm not.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 29 Feb
people in Developing countries tend to be more optimistic about future mostly because things are shaping up for a promising future. Unlike developed countries, they aren't still. They aren't on the cusp of development, but they are moving ahead.
Who wants to stay at one place? People in developed countries, however much ahead in terms of development, are standing still and not moving ahead with the same speed as do people from developing countries.
There are more opportunities in developing countries which is culminating in more enthusiasm. This enthusiasm, I think, is the predecessor to their optimism.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @koqoo 1 Mar
yes, but that’s just after 2037
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @StoneCodlHodl 29 Feb
Unless people are willing to fight HARD, to secure their inalienable property rights, including bitcoin - things will become pretty bleak. Currently it's impossible to defend real property from the suit mafia, due to their monopoly on violence. And our general cowardice in defending each other from our rulers. (stop drinking the fluoride FFS.) Bitcoin does give us a fighting chance to property.
And because this is Stacker News: Bitcoin WILL also fail if we don't onboard BILLIONS of people to holding their own keys, and also hopefully running a node. Custody solutions will centralize nodes (consensus), and set us on a path to ruin like the current fiat banking system. This will allow them to rehypothicate even bitcoin! Many calculate, in its current form, bitcoin can only support 110million active key holders. This is not going cut it
I don't know if that means CTV/LNHANCE, or some other method still undiscovered. I was previously against CTV as a knee-jerk reaction - but it's looking no more dangerous than the already existing DLC/Discrete Log Contract.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 29 Feb
The World is gonna be fine, it's the people that will go away, very soon, if we keep going like that... The world is here for 4 billion years, its gonna be fine...
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @KLT 29 Feb
I feel really good about the future but I seem to be the only one in my friend group that’s hopeful unfortunately.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @joda 29 Feb
These polls are easily manipulated with priming. People can be in outright denial about progress.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @02bcd3eeb0 29 Feb
No!! We humans are fucking retarded. If we don't have the right incentives, we will just fuck everything up.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheBTCManual 29 Feb
Long term absolutely, but there will be a lot of pain in the short to medium term, its funny how developing nations see up only, and once we can unlock the rest of the worlds productivity and value man it should be a revolution of note
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @gojira9000 29 Feb
For the world overall? Sure. For the United States? Not so much.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss OP 29 Feb
To be honest, I am not so sure about the world either. It smells like a something big is coming.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JuanMiguel 29 Feb
no lol
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @imjust_satoshiguy 1 Mar freebie
I wasn't untill i learnd about lightning :)
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