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Great PR for Signal. Their service still needs phone numbers, and that’s the most important part of this.
Finally, while you’ll still need a phone number to create a Signal account, you’ll have the option to prevent anyone from finding you on Signal using your phone number.
So what’s the point? Why not just remove this silly requirement?
But because phone numbers make it simpler for most people to use Signal, and harder for spammers to make fake accounts, the phone number requirement is here to stay for the foreseeable future.
Oh it’s too hard, we dislike spam, so let’s not even attempt to solve the actual problem.
Seems to me they still haven’t addressed the root issue of their service. Great PR and somewhat better than mainstream alternatives, but still not seeing anything groundbreaking here. Still the signal of old.
Its all about tradeoffs to me. Spam is a real problem on every messaging service. Even those that require numbers. I get zero spam on Signal. I get quite a bit on Telegram and I got a TON on Skype back in the day. For the women in my life spam is even worse. I don't think it helps to belittle spam as an actual problem. Spam has really degraded the effectiveness of email for example.
I don't think we should be fan boys and girls for Signal, they have their faults but lets also recognize they have built a very good messaging app that is used by a great number of people around the world that don't have other good options(I know alternatives exist but none are as familiar as Signal). I have tried to move people on to Signal or other alternatives. Its not easy to do. I have had the most success with Signal by far.
They also have a target on their back. Lets not let perfect be the enemy of good. I'm very glad they have added this feature and I hope they will adopt bitcoin as an anti spam measure in the future. Seems like a good option but I don't think its a practical option for them yet. Not from their perspective at least.
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Think of the "phone number requirement" as "Proof of work". If you frame it that way it kinda makes sense. It takes time and effort (or cost) to obtain a phone number.
Obviously we at SN know what would make the better POW to fight off the spam, but the normie world is still not there.
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