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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @TonyGiorgio OP 7 Mar \ parent \ on: Mutiny Wallet is now available on iOS and Android! 🚀 bitcoin
Unfortunately it's part of the lightning protocol. Lightning only works because of the timelocks involved. We do what we can, and most channels don't close, but we can't do anything any time soon about a payment that NEEDS to process to completion but doesn't come back online. If it didn't close, funds could be lost. Would you rather than instead? Channels that occasionally close is just part of lightning unfortunately. Cost of being sovereign.
I know that there are trade-offs using Lightning but I never had this kind of issues with other wallets such as Phoenix or my own node. I just think it's disappointing because this channel force-closed after just 5 days, having paid to open it, just because I was trying to zap 21 sats on Nostr and for some reason the payment didn't go through. So don't get me wrong, I love Mutiny for many reasons but this is a really bad user experience.
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Phoenix removes almost all parts of a self sovereign lightning experience. I get it, they 'provide the best lightning wallet' at the cost of it only being usable with their node.
Meanwhile your node is probably always online and available to process the payments.
I appreciate the honest feedback and your patience/support, and I agree it sucks. Which is why we've been spending a lot of time on fedimint support. With it, casual low value payments/receives will be processed by a federation with no risk of channel closure or offline payment issue. Meanwhile high valued payments can come out of self custody. It works well, but there's not many federations yet. I hope this changes soon so we can have a good set of trade offs for different use cases.
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Thank you for taking the time to explain. I like that Mutiny is trying to offer alternatives and expand the use cases so I guess this is all part of the discovery process. I'm particularly excited about your fedimint implementation. I've been playing recently with Cashu wallets and I'm pretty sure the use of eCash will grow exponentially. I hope to be able to create my own fedimint soon for family and friends.
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