Whenever I'm invited to speak on a panel I like to write for an hour or more about the topic the panel is discussing. It's not a great habit in terms of being present but it does allow me to say what I want when I anticipate being in an inarticulate mood (which is always).
@plebpoet led the panel and shared her questions a day in advance so I wrote with those as prompts.

This is the Wild West, what do we mean by that? Well we have this new, revolutionary technology called bitcoin. It empowers individuals. What do individuals do when they're empowered? Literally anything. In the Wild West, there's opportunity, fortune, and fame, there's certain death in unsustainable environments, there's betrayals and camaraderie. It's a space for new things to be discovered, you have to get a little funky to discover them in order to map out the space, showing what works and what doesn't work. The Wild West is where anything can happen.
That's my little intro, but do you guys agree, what makes bitcoin a Wild West, and is that why you're attracted to it?
The west was once wild because it was new. Bitcoin is new like fire was once new, or farming was once new, the printing press, the telegraph, cryptography, the computer, the internet. New is wild. It's controversial and un-welcomed as it's a threat to the old. New is volatile. But, if you can tame what's new, if you can settle in the wild west before most others, you can pick gold right off the ground.
The projects you work on are discovering new things about this space, no doubt. Each of you is trying something that nobody else has done before. Something that's fascinating about you guys is how you're able to understand a multitude of use cases, and speak to each of them and adjust for them. I imagine that gets tiring, it's so easy to speculate forever about what might happen. Do you find this to be a challenge? How do you narrow your focus to what you're building right now?
It's only challenging in the same sense that hitting oil is a challenge. You have to build something like a pumpjack to manage the extraction of oil, but oil is the whole point.
Those of us that are doing this right are building pumpjacks to extract the oil below our feet. It's easy to focus when you know why you're building - to get the dang oil out of the ground, to produce value that wasn't there before so you can deliver it to people.
Focus is only a challenge when you aren't standing on oil and can't begin experimenting with getting it out of the ground. It's also a challenge when you forget that oil is the point and instead focus on being seen as an oil tycoon.
When you identified this thing that you wanted to create, what's the equipment that you knew you needed?
For SN, I had this thing I wanted to create before meeting the equipment I needed. It's only when I met the equipment that I knew I could create something truly new, truly wild, and potentially valuable. The equipment I needed was cheap, arbitrarily small, friction-minimized payments.
Along your journey, what has surprised you that you weren't prepared for?
The duration of suffering. I anticipated suffering but not for it to be endless. Of course, I can stop climbing whenever I want, but then I'll stop going up.
Any success we have is surprising. I accept that nearly everything I do will fail so when it does I'm not caught off-guard and can keep going. When things succeed, it's a surprise.
Can you talk about a problem that you're working out a solution for right now? Maybe you don't know yet if it works or not.
Making it worthwhile to contribute to SN. I've been really focused the last week on making it trivial to begin contributing to SN and incentivizing contribution.
There are also three other big areas where we are focused right now: tapering off of being a custodian, making territories profitable/worthy of their cost, and growing.
What's the next frontier?
One of the weirder things we are kind of obsessed with currently is having a more autonomous organization to supplement our trad full time employee org. We are thinking about how to incentivize and coordinate anons to chip in however they can (much like SN's product already does to some degree).
Side bar: Bitcoin is surrounded by frontiers. Lots of us are yelling at each other that one frontier is better than all others, but most of that is stupid or corrupt. Find your own frontier and don't let powerbrokers and bag holders in other frontiers bully you into subscribing to theirs.
Another thing I respect about each of your openness to learn about a new idea and integrate into your work. How do you screen all the ideas that come up in this space?
I look for several independent validation points in addition to my own. At least, when they're available. For product stuff, we have a sense of what the product should be, and stackers have a sense of what the product should be, but I don't trust either alone. I try to screen out things where there isn't any overlap.
Is it experience or expertise that you lean on to tell you what to listen to?
I listen and lean on anything I possibly can. I co-depend on whatever is available because I need whatever help I can get, whatever edge I can get. It's not one or the other. It's whatever is available given the problem I'm solving.
Making it worthwhile to contribute to SN.
I've been wondering about this point. I'm perfectly happy to throw my sats around with reckless abandon, but that's largely because I earned them here. My direct financial contribution has been zero. Indirectly, I think I've helped make this a more engaging place for people to spend their time, but how many of them are net spenders?
Obviously, for the dev team to get paid, somebody must be a net financial contributor. Who is that, other than advertisers?
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I started on SN with a 1000 sat deposit. I haven't deposited sats since.
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Who is that, other than advertisers?
SN's treasury is.
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Long term, who is that, other than advertisers?
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Oh I see. I don't know yet. I have a variety of speculative thoughts but neither of us would be satisfied by that. If we can figure out how to make territories profitable, then make them something much more than just a forum, I suspect that's one source.
I'm hoping we don't ever have to solely rely on any single source of revenue and I refuse to let it be advertisers because there's too much evidence that ends poorly.
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But maybe you're asking something more abstract, like where will the sats that need to flow into the economy come from?
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Yeah, that's it. Your team is pulling a stream out, so what's refilling the pool?
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Great question that I haven't thought about enough obviously. @kr has brought this up in a variety of ways though.
I like the Shopify analogy for territories in the sense that it's the clearest SaaS product. The analogy isn't perfect for us, but what refills their pool? I struggle to answer. Consumers buying from Shopify stores?
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I imagine it will depend on the territory to some degree.
Some territories host contests with entry fees, so if people want to participate they may have to make a deposit.
Some people will be willing to pay to post content or pay for territories that direct readers to another site.
Maybe now that you have other wallets connected, people will just pay to zap the content they like without thinking much about their net inflows and outflows.
Edit: ultimately, putting it on territories to figure out how to be profitable will allow a bunch of different solutions to emerge.
Bitcoin is surrounded by frontiers. Lots of us are yelling at each other that one frontier is better than all others, but most of that is stupid or corrupt. Find your own frontier and don't let powerbrokers and bag holders in other frontiers bully you into subscribing to theirs.
This was inspiring :)
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Focus is only a challenge when you aren't standing on oil and can't begin experimenting with getting it out of the ground.
I feel this right now.
Appreciated the level of thought you had during it and the great questions asked. Exactly the kind of things on my mind lately and important for the top builders audience as well.
Here's the panel for those interested in how these notes came through:
(2h 19m)
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Thanks!
I feel this right now.
To continue the metaphor's abuse, when we've drilled deep and haven't seen much oil, it could be worth moving to a new spot. Speaking from experience, it's less of a loss than it feels like it is. We'll have learned a lot about sterile ground and we're less likely to waste time in a sterile spot again and boy have we learned a lot about drilling when we do find the right ground.
My main advice to aspiring roughnecks is to drill a lot of test holes. You don't know what's deep in the ground until you've looked in it.
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Any success we have is surprising. I accept that nearly everything I do will fail so when it does I'm not caught off-guard and can keep going. When things succeed, it's a surprise.
I get it. This is enthusiasm and persistence that's playing a major role in creating such an awesome community like SN. For a while I've been thinking how SN gets better and better everyday. Finally I have got the answer.
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I think this is a good habit and process. I have never had to do a panel but have given a few speeches and I always liked to have a prepared intro paragraph but then notes of the key points I wanted to touch on.
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Pre-writing is a lifesaver for sure, and maybe I'm just not very experienced doing it yet, but at least on a panel, I tend to force myself to say what I wrote rather than what I might've said naturally.
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I really appreciate your leadership style and your way of thinking. Keep up the great work!
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Thanks for this. As a relative newb here, I can say you've definitely made it pretty trivial to dive in.
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The oil extraction analogy is spot on. Let's work together to fill up the tanks!
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if you can settle in the wild west before most others, you can pick gold right off the ground.
indeed, I like the thrill of it. 👀
Making it worthwhile to contribute to SN. I've been really focused the last week on making it trivial to begin contributing to SN and incentivizing contribution.
and fun! having fun learning and contributing.
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By the way, I'm being unintentionally ambiguous when I said "contributor." I specifically meant open source contributor here.
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