Apple has a monopoly on iOS app distribution.
Tell me what is wrong with this statement
Imagine if every tech product was designed to work ONLY with other devices from the same brand?
Have a computer from company XYZ? You can ONLY run software approved by that company's committee. Why? Because we said so. Are there technical limitations? No, we just want to make moneh!
Tech would suck. We'd still have black and white TVs! 🤭
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The black and white television đź“ş analogy is hyperbole
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Indeed - I'm glad you caught that.
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Use a better metaphor
No need to distort or exaggerate
Distortion discredits
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🥺
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They prevent interoperability on their devices. Now that their devices are so widespread, they are preventing an increasing amount of companies and individuals the ability to have tech sovereignty. Some magical tipping point makes this a harm to the public for the benefit or private enterprise.
Hmm.. I'm digesting my thoughts on this as well...
But the water has gotten too hot for me and this frog already jumped out of the Apple Ecosystem Boiling Pot awhile ago.
Give me freedom-protecting, decentralized, open tech, or give me death!
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Should Apple be forced to support tech sovereignty?
What about Google search?
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Too much adds on Google, and what they do to your privacy is a shame. Lot of bitcoiners talk about privacy, I hope they don’t use Google then…. Unfortunately for the consumers Google is the best right now because of their oligopole.
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I say more like the opposite...
They shouldn't be forced to implement any given tech, but its the purposeful prevention of tech interoperability for the sake of some Brand excuse that irks.
For example, much of tech has been designed to be agnostic as to end-device at the protocol layer in order to allow anything to work with any other thing. Bluetooth, HTTP, WiFi... especially application layer stuff like filesystems and links!!
So making a sleak interface that gives like-Branded devices a first-class experience is great for the end user only if they have the same brand. This flies into the face of what tech standards are f'n for!!!
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That’s terrible, everybody needs to pay apple at their price if they want to do something. Concurrence doesn’t exist anymore. Clients will always be the ones loosing. Can’t really understand the comments of this post. People seem to forget the benefits of open source, open standard, working together and true concurrence.
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And? I have a monopoly on what is on my systems. Is the answer for daddy gov to come in and use force? Or is daddy gov the problem creating the status quo.
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You aren't wrong. In EU there will be a bunch of new options for app distribution and some new payment processing options. This is a done deal in EU and it could follow suit in the USA.
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Apple is trying to maintain its monopoly on the distribution of iOS apps.
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Why can’t a company control its own product? It’s like Microsoft having a monopoly on windows or azure. Or Amazon has a monopoly on AWS
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Also, Microsoft is no stranger to their own anti-trust litigation...
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Because if that tech is "roads themselves which most cars needs to drive on" ... at some point you say "ok thanks for inventing this... but you need to remove the code that prevents motorcycles, scooters, tractors, busses, etc" because holy shit roads are great but stop giving your Apple Cars first class road access while preventing other vehicles from working properly!
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People can use Android or another device
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Yes they can. But if Google does the same thing (and to some respect they do) THEN what.
That's why this is important. This harms the average Joe that has no clue. Tech companies are doing this intentionally. There are tech standards bodies for a reason - to allow tech to "just work." Sound familiar...?
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The department of justice does not represent tech standards bodies.
Which bodies are you referring to?
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Easy - NIST, IEEE, W3C, ANSI, NISO, The Linux Foundation... iono man... the SME's that actually try to make inter-operable tech!
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I see your point, but I also think that the app market is a different beast. It would be like Microsoft prohibiting the installation of non-Microsoft apps on Windows. But I get your point, it does make some sense.
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Apple controls the app market for iOS.
Google controls Google Play or whatever its app market is called.
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its own product?
To my mind, the product is really just a collection of hardware vendor's products, glued together with an OS.
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I meant the App Store. Apple controls its own App Store
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @xz 21 Mar
Ah, I guessed that you were making a different point. Just trying to convey my own feeling with Apple (not trying to manufacture an argument or play devil's advocate.) Absolutely. As far as appstores go, it should be under complete control (or no control) as they decide. Just like a physical store.
I guess following that analogy, it strikes me that in the same way we used to see lots of independent mom and pop stores selling whatever they chose, they all got bought out and are now chainstores providing the same function but more uniform in their offerings. It's just the monopolization part which annoys me.
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Regarding mom and pop stores I guess it depends on the product or service.
Or small chains vs mega chains ⛓️
I understand app makers are upset with Apple for its high commission and approval process
The department of justice will make the situation worse. I guess it’s a sign that Apple and iPhone are ubiquitous
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Lets not forget, we all stand on the shoulders of giants. Bitcoin is a collection of other technologies and ideas as well.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 21 Mar
Easy to forget when you use an end-product.
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I’m quoting the source article
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