22 sats \ 2 replies \ @nerd2ninja 26 Jul 2022 \ on: We need a real decentralized mesh network for censorship resistant Bitcoin usage bitcoin
Okay, lets talk about this:
https://www.instructables.com/LoRa-Mesh-Radio/
Since we're talking about lightning network, I think this is much more viable. Rewarding mesh node operators with a blockchain based subsidy first brings me back to "If you aren't trying to be money, why do you need a coin" as in "A reliance on a subsidy is evidence your project doesn't provide economic value, but secondly it would be fragile to the kinds of attacks mentioned in that Pentagon paper (ISP risk).
Lightning network on the other hand, is already a networking protocol by design. Implement BGP in your LoRa mesh node, connect a lightning channel with nearby nodes, and route packets with your lightning fee.
I think this can be viable without a large network even. Just go to places that don't have free WiFi, but nonetheless have a decent gathering of people, set up a LoRa access point and connect it with an ISP (Mobile data or networked to your home router). Set it up with an internal webpage explaining that you need to establish a lightning network channel to use the node, (perhaps even host the APK to download a wallet) and bam, you're in business.
connect it with an ISP (Mobile data or networked to your home router).
Which violates most ISP / mobile data service agreements. But that doesn't mean people won't do it anyway.:
There is some discussion about this approach with @pseudozach where the link was shared in a comment reply here on SN:
https://github.com/araspitzu/btc-hotspot https://www.peplink.com/products/max-adapter/ This product has custom captive portal with a radius integration. So basically we just need to build a public captive portal that takes payments with LN and allow the user access.
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Okay I mean if you're looking at being super serious about being commercial with it (which means you have to respect those TOS most people don't read lmao) then okay you have to call up the ISP you're working with and talk out a business agreement and just so you don't think this is unrealistic:
This one is cool too: but there are too many videos like this so Imma stop now.
Also, if you're about to say "Well in Europe" just stop lmao I'm American and realistically I think the places where this is best suited is probably the Central African Republic (CAR) or other places with little or no internet access.
But yes I've read through all those other links. Very valuable content.
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