In 1913 only 1% of Americans had indoor plumbing and electricity
365 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Apr
Interesting chart
We can see that emissions dropped during the Great Depression.
Poverty is the most effective way to reduce carbon emissions
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 15 Apr
That's your takeaway? Srsly? In 2023 only 1% had indoor plumbing and electricity. If anything the takeaway should be that it has NOT necessarily much to do with poverty/qol.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nullcount 15 Apr
The chart takes a nosedive right around the time when US industry began moving to China.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko OP 15 Apr
No, read the source. Moving emissions to China, Mexico, Vietnam is not the reason.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullcount 15 Apr
I don't see anything about this in the source.
There is a section where they attempt to correct for emissions from production of goods imported/exported.
But this chart doesn't attempt to correct for that...
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43 sats \ 2 replies \ @nym 14 Apr
That is pretty good progress I'd say.
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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @harrr 15 Apr
Progress to where?
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6 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 18 Apr
To tax your ass over a scam.. thats the only progress
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43 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 15 Apr
I always wonder about these stats... His were they measuring this in the 1910s vs today. Call me sceptical of the data.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 18 Apr
Its just the carbon scam.. they have to make you comply using some fake data in order to tax your ass..
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @harrr 15 Apr
Land-use not included. What?
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @go 15 Apr
I'd wonder if they magically eliminate co2 emissions that have been "negated" by paying a carbon tax
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullcount 15 Apr
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0 sats \ 12 replies \ @Satosora 14 Apr
The EPA actually cracks down and fines companies.
I believe their fines should be higher, because I remember the company I worked for just paying the fines and not fixing the problem.
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @kingzing131 14 Apr
Lowering pollution but keeping the same output and profitability is definitely ideal.
But I just don't see fines will be equally fair. Some industries are more pollutant intensive and harder to reduce.
And the US wants to have some of the manufacturing back, these fines and regulations ain't gonna make it easy.
The world needs to pick between outsourcing their manufacturing or allowing local pollution
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @fm 18 Apr
You know CO2 is not an air pollutant rigth?
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @kingzing131 19 Apr
You mean same way water isn’t a poison until you have too much of it?
Never understand what’s this take as if byproducts cannot be harmful
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @fm 19 Apr
What i mean is, chemically speaking C02 is not a pollutant. Fact is, if it wasn’t for CO2 life on earth would be very different to the point we are not sure if humans could exist.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kingzing131 19 Apr
If life matters to you then it is a pollutant in the sense that it's being overproduced as a byproduct.
Objectively speaking, the universe doesn't have pollution nor does life matters.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @fm 19 Apr
Very good points,
You know what is also being overproduced? Taxes that wont fix a thing and will be abused.
All this science is being used to extract wealth.
You must be aware that our scales work in a very small time frame that doesn’t support half the “science” they want you to believe.
Taxes and electric conversion are scams.. ending farming and meat also a scam
end programmed obsolescence first,
Go geothermal
Those are way better solutions that make you Carbon compliant.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kingzing131 20 Apr
It's never just about carbon. You obviously know that when you mentioned farming which tackles methane.
It IS effective, whether EFFICIENT way to cut down emissions is another question.
I am also not sure what you mean scale doesn't support the science.
You don't need hundreds of years of record to know if you have a model of X + Y = Z, which has been verified with real life live data repeatedly and simulation.
Do you think we need light years of record to prove gravity exists?
And we are all bitcoiners here, we are risk averse to protect Bitcoin against any attacks. Somehow we should be open to the idea that we shouldn't wear any seatbelts and just let things be, even if the risk is life threatening globally
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 19 Apr
You are right.
Maybe humans need to learn how to breath CO2?
We could all win a darwin award.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 19 Apr
Oh, that comment is plain ignorant.
Remeber to take your 6th booster buddy
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Apr
The EPA is out of control. An agency drunk on power
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35 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 15 Apr
I think they are on the right track.
They may seem heavy handed with fines, but they are in place so that the company takes action to fix the problems.
At my company, it was crooked as shit.
They didnt fix the problem and just paid the fines, or limited their emissions or didnt even report them.
Its harmful for the environment, and they are just being greedy. They had the money to fix these issues.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 15 Apr
Heavy handed for sure
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