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I arrived in San Salvador today. It's my third trip, but the first time outside of a major Bitcoin event. I'm quite passionate about using Bitcoin (rather than just talking about it, or hodling it), and I feel genuine first hand information about El Salvador can be hard to come by, so I decided to share this with you all.
Trip preparation: ✈️ Booking flights with Bitcoin isn't easy! There's practically only Travala now (Future Travel shut down), and they didn't have a lot of choice regarding flights. I was able to get a much better deal directly through United, but that required me to take out a Bitcoin debit card, which i would have preferred to avoid. 🛏️ Booking hotels directly isn't easy! Even if you write them directly and know they take Bitcoin, they often reply they only take Bitcoin in person, or are otherwise unable to send you a Lightning invoice or payment request by email. One hotel kept sending me invoices with a 15 minute expiration date over Facebook Messenger, and by the time I received it it was already 5 minutes old. Booking through Travala is a lot easier, and I can still pay with sats, but the hotel will not know that I did. 🚗 Local public transportation isn't great, so I book a hotel transfer. I can pay with Bitcoin, but I also might be overpaying quite significantly over other alternatives. 🛜 I got myself a Silent Link and a Bitrefill eSIM. The Silent Link card doesn't work at all, and the Bitrefill card has frequent connection outages, which can make paying with Bitcoin very awkward.
San Salvador: The city feels so much nicer than the last two times I went (~1.5 & 2.5 years ago). There are cycle paths now, pedestrian crossing, there isn't an trash lying around anymore and far fewer cars blocking the road. It's also noticeable more lively, which is really great to see. The construction sites I saw on my previous trips are largely completed, and actually filled with businesses and people. They feel much more friendly and open than the older buildings, have glass on street level and aren't gated with concrete walls in the same way. At least developers seem quite optimistic that the current peace will hold.
Bitcoin: You still can't just walk into a business and expect them to accept Bitcoin. Even many places I've asked that do have a Bitcoin-related logo by the door say they don't accept it. Using BTCMap helps a lot, but even some of the businesses listed there say they don't take Bitcoin. Card payments seem to be quite widespread and preferred. There's some variety in payment processors, and they all work well. Blink, Ibex and Chivo is what I have encountered so far. There are some Strike logos on businesses but all say they don't take Bitcoin, when asked. The McDonald's Lightning integration was one of the best user experiences around, and it's a shame to see it broken. I hear it's been like that for months. It's quite clear that Bitcoin is not popular among young, well-off locals, and there are likely not enough foreign Bitcoiners living in San Salvador.
10 sats \ 2 replies \ @anon 26 May
For flights, what about https://www.cheapair.com ? They've been accepting bitcoin for a long time : https://www.cheapair.com/travel/buy-flights-with-bitcoin-btc
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Travala > Cheapair
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I've tried using them, but also didn't see better options and sadly they don't accept Lightning payments
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I like this first hand info without any hype, just reality. Thanks a lot to take the time.
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Next stop, Argentina ;)
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15 sats \ 1 reply \ @leo OP 26 May
I'd love to go!
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Here we await! :)
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Payments will soon start using Bitcoin in the world every where. People have slowly started accepting the truth
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It seems inevitable! But as Bitcoiners we have to do our part, and that is to use Bitcoin whenever we can!
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It would be interesting to know first hand from them about the change. Were they trapped losing value due to bitcoin volatility? As a hodlr you may not even look to the price of bitcoin, but if you need to use it in a daily basis the changes in price may cause a headache.
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Fascinating. I would have loved to use the Lightning Network at McDonald’s. Shame that the integration is broken
Looking forward to the rest of your reports!
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That's a shame about those merchants but not too surprising.
Unless the locals start using Bitcoin enmass, for them it might as well be a placeholder.
Still, it's disappointing that even with so much push for adoption and still struggling.
I guess unless a full circular economy starts happening, it will always be the case.
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This is sad, if business aren't accepting BTC even with a sticker it was merely an illusion to make El Salvador look like a Bitcoin friendly country.
What can we do as Bitcoiners to help influence the young to start saving in Bitcoin? Shall I make hamster Bitcoin guides? LOL even if I did, I'll need a translator.
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I don't understand what the point is of putting a BTC logo in your establishment and then not accepting payments with it, but hey, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and that the city has improved :)
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It seems all these places have accepted Bitcoin in the past, but gave up for whatever reason. I'd also love to know more
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Maybe they have one customer in 2 weeks who pays with bitcoin.
Because of this, they forget to log in to/charge the point-of-sale device at the start of the shift.
“Bitcoin is down today”.
I witnessed many foreign Bitcoiners in El Salvador paying with fiat credit cards even in Bitcoin meetups because of their 4% cashbacks, and I can’t blame them.
Bitcoiners should come up with better incentives for merchants to offer it as a means of payment.
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I thought that for a moment, I understand that many businesses fail to implement the Lightning Network, maybe this is why.
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110 sats \ 1 reply \ @leo OP 26 May
All these old stickers are from professional payment processors that have Lightning enabled by default. The reason must lie elsewhere
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I understand, thanks for the info
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If you have visited El Salvador as a Bitcoiner, you might recognize this car!
Shops like these are still a rarity in San Salvador.
San Benito's new developments look inviting, clean and modern.
Squirrel Eye Brewing hosts the Mi Primer Bitcoin meetup, takes sats and makes great beer.
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Great boots-on-the ground report!
The city feels so much nicer than the last two times I went (~1.5 & 2.5 years ago).
Could you expand on this part? Very interested in how the vibe feels different, however you choose to capture that.
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Just as I expected. Anything in bitcoin is tough. Hopefully with time things get better.
Posts like this used to really bother me like we are losing the adoption phase but listening to Bitstein on a podcast this past week I’m not so worried about this now.
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I’m wondering if other places in El Salvador have many more merchants that accept Bitcoin . What are your thoughts on why young well off locals don’t like bitcoin?
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I recently met someone from El Salvador. We didn't talk about Bitcoin but she said that peoples idea of "making it" isn't to start a business, become a doctor or being a music/movie star - their idea of "making it" is leaving the country.
I bet that's related. Especially the well off young people have cognitive dissonance with the idea of perspective inside the country. Bitcoin in El Salvador means staying in the country - and that's fundamentally opposed to their previous goals and dreams.
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I'll get to travel around a bit this week and will report on what I see!
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Silent Link took ~30 minutes to get online, but is now working well (setting airplane mode a few times seemed to help)