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I think the differences that people point out can be used in both directions and only really serve to muddy the waters. All prior presidents have taken documents with them and they've all refused to turn over certain documents when ordered to do so. It turns into a negotiation with the Federal records officers.
The point is that in case after case Trump is treated differently by the regime than all seemingly similar prior cases.
On any specific case, reasonable arguments can be made for why it's different this time, but I think there's a clear signal that can be read through all the noise: most presidents are given as much benefit of the doubt as possible, while Trump is given the least.
true.
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Yeah, but you have to agree he did the most and of the kind of stuff the masters don't like. I get why he is popular, but that is also why he won't make it.
They are two sides of the same coin flipped by the same hand.
Don't be fooled.
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I'm not at all convinced that Trump has done more shady stuff than any of the others.
I'm not saying he didn't, but I don't know how we're supposed to assess this when the asymmetry of treatment is so great.
Do you really think Trump has done more illegal stuff than the Clintons? That would surprise me if it were true.
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I have always thought the Clintons were shady. Glad the woman didnt make president!
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Hell no. Bill Clinton is the devil! But I don't let that push me to another devil. What you don't seem to get is they are on the same team. They want you having this fight instead of us getting together and dealing with them all.
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If you think I'm on Trump's team, you are very mistaken. I'd love to see him tried and executed for war crimes.
However, if I'm asked to weigh-in on whether he gets treated the same as other past presidents, I'm not going to pretend that he does. The double standard is clear as day.
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If we focus on the money we will change all this! We will change the incentives that creates the system the political class exploits!
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I swear! You Stackers make me smarter!
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Its always interesting to see posts that have great discussions. Over 60 comments already!
How do you change the system, though? Do you think they want more oversight?
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Right. It would, but you need to get everyone to accept it.
He is getting raked over the coals. But it is over the things that he has done.
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There's a term for this: anarco-tyranny.
It's when the law is only enforced selectively against one group of people while the group enforcing the laws are not beholden to them.
Shit like this used to happen to black people all the time, going all the way back to the implementation of voting tests right after emancipation.
The point isn't whether or not he did anything. The point is that wielding the legal system as a partisan political weapon is extremely dangerous.
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tbh, As a middle aged Black American man, it is funny (both strange and humorous at times) to see white people complaining about our long-standing disadvantages.
It's like oh, it was ok when it was us for 150 years, but NOW it's a problem.
Funny you say used to happen to Black people. This wasn't ancient history!
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Funny you say used to happen to Black people. This wasn't ancient history!
It was not my intention for it to come out that way. The specific examples I was thinking of were more prominent in the past, but I'm not trying to imply that they weren't also more recent and current examples.
Drug law enforcement was the other main example I was thinking of and drug enforcement is thankfully relaxing across the country.
There is a lot of white privilege. But to tell you the truth, I feel a majority of people, or friends in my case, do not ever have to leverage that.
I am not saying those things are right, but it was during a period when it was accepted. Judging the past based on our beliefs now, we will always find fault.
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You're missing the point.
Selective enforcement like this is a huge problem. If he's only being prosecuted because his name is Donald Trump (as many people believe), that is a miscarriage of justice in and of itself, regardless of whether he's guilty or not.
Great! Sorry if I confused you with his talking points. You present them well.
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Hillary is worse than Bill. I think
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Explain
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Hillary seems to be the center of controversy
Not seems but is
Whitewater Rose law firm in Arkansas Vince Foster suicide Travel gate Foundation donation quid pro quo Approved sale of uranium to Russia Private email server Missing emails and bleach Bit The number of suicide and death of those who have worked for her Her campaign funded the Steele dossier
There is more but I can’t remember right now
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You're naive. Hillary is a front. Bill conducted that train. She would have been his third term.
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He didn’t conduct her 2016 campaign. In fact he disagreed often with her campaign advisors etc
His most prominent role was running into the attorney general on the tarmac
And if she won it would have been Obama third term. Fortunately for Barry he got his third term with Biden