55 sats \ 33 replies \ @kepford OP 6 Jun \ parent \ on: What's So Bad About Trump? libertarian
Did you read the post? You are not wrong. But he had the "reins of power" for 4 years. What did he do vs. previous "terrible men" that held that office? I mean, you are making my point. Its words, or am I misunderstanding.
I guess what you are saying is he's terrible and you don't like him. I really get that. What I don't get is looking at the actions vs. those of previous men.
What if he presented as well as Obama. If he was respectable and acceptable but still did all the actions he did while in office acting as POTUS. Would your reaction be different?
It just sounds like he triggers you. If so, that's fine. I get that. But he's TRYING to do that.
He doesn’t trigger me so much as I find him to be the opposite of every man or woman I’ve ever found respectable.
Integrity is everything in this world and I see none of it in this man.
He’s a loser, plain and simple.
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So Bush was more respectable but was responsible for more death and destruction right?
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Hard to believe when the American president with most bombings in the world is Obama, not Trump.
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Everyone here is making huge assumptions about what I find respectable. Just because I don't like orange man doesn’t mean I like anyone else more. Don’t get caught in that mental trap.
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The question is what makes Trump worse. I think the disagreement is mostly on where you place those wrongs vs. where others place them. Clearly people do not align there.
I remember being with people calling Obama weak, a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ. It was absurd. I remember conservatives saying he'd put people in camps. He's never leave office. He was destroying the military. Losing the war on terror.
In truth he was Bush 2.0 with better marketing. He won his position promising change but really what changed most was the words and sales pitch. He continued the worst policies of W.
I learned a lot about politics and people during this period. How people just mimic what the news source tells them. And how everyone cries wolf.
This is a large part of why I do not buy what is being said about Trump today. On top of the misquoting, out of context, and out right lying about him its just in alignment with my experience as someone who's paid attention since I was a pre-teen.
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I remember being with people calling Obama weak, a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ. It was absurd. I remember conservatives saying he'd put people in camps. He's never leave office. He was destroying the military. Losing the war on terror. In truth he was Bush 2.0 with better marketing.
a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ.
this reaction from conservatives is because he was black-not based on something Obama actually said or did. As you mentioned, he's Bush 2.0 - the actual policies that were pushed by the Democrats weren't that indistinguishable from the Romney campaign.
the resistance was because someone conservatives viewed as 'lesser' was in charge, not policy.
in contrast:
He's never leave office
Trump refused to concede the election & had his supporters try to stop the count of votes in the capital.
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Trump did leave office before January 20, 2021
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yeah, but not because he thought that he needed to follow the law but because he didn't have support to stay.
the thing that Obama was accused of planning to do, Trump actually tried.
If people were 'crying wolf' when it was suggested that Obama might not want to leave office peacefully, what should the response be when Trump asked his supporters to stop the count of electoral votes in the Capitol Building?
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Trump actually left DC once his term ended. Barry still owns a house in DC.
No other ex president since Woodrow Wilson has stayed in DC except Barry.
When is Obama going to come out of the closet?
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Trump actually left DC once his term ended.
Not without kicking and screaming, and not before getting his supporters killed trying to reinstate him. pretty sure that's a presidential first.
No other ex president since Woodrow Wilson has stayed in DC except Barry.
The fact that Obama owns a home in DC is not relevant unless you think black people owning homes in wealthy areas is a problem. Why do you believe that black people owning homes in DC is an issue?
When is Obama going to come out of the closet?
a closet muslim, and even the anti-christ
and we're back to the bullshit. instead of attacking actual policy, the core opposition is to who Obama is vs what they did
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Integrity is absent in DC and politics in general
Politicians are Machiavellian and narcissistic. The dark triad.
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See, this is what is so obvious to anyone that pulls themself out of the matrix. But so many can't see it. They only see it in their opposition. Not in their "team". Its really all in the incentives. Bitcoin is a good tool to understanding this.
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Local and state governments affect my life more and my local choices are also depressing
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The main affect on most Americans lives both positive and negative are their personal choices. Not those of these clowns in office. But see if I promise to fix all your problems if you check a box that sounds really good doesn't it?
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- Added as much to the national debt in 4 years as Obama did in 8.
- Fomented an insurrection.
- Refused to concede.
- Shirked a bunch of long held traditions.
- Got Roe overturned taking away women's rights.
- Got in twitter fights with dictators.
- Publicly took Putin's word over our own intelligence agencies.
- Took classified documents, stored them insecurely, and refused to give them back.
- Owes half a billion dollars for defaming a women he sexually assaulted.
- Has been convicted on 34 felony counts by a jury of his peers.