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SN release: random zap amounts, webln attached wallet

5245 sats \ 63 comments \ @k00b 2 Aug meta

zaps forwarded to @WeAreAllSatoshi (50%) @0xbitcoiner (50%)

In your settings, you can specify a zap range so that your zaps are a random amount within that range (inclusive iirc). It works with turbo zaps even! This was implemented by @WeAreAllSatoshi and @0xbitcoiner requested this iirc.

You can now "attach" a webln enabled wallet like Alby. This went live a week ago or so but we didn't announce it.

Anyway, that's all we've got for now. 🫡

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4134 sats \ 5 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 2 Aug

NGL this feature is going over better than I anticipated haha

2527 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 3 Aug

Zapped you a random amount between 1-5000! 🫡

It also works well with zap undos and custom zaps.

1826 sats \ 3 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 3 Aug

Right back at you!

919 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 3 Aug

A zap duel has been triggered

617 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 3 Aug

We’re just testing Math.random

896 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 3 Aug

pure madness

396 sats \ 6 replies \ @Natalia 2 Aug

the random zap is fun 👀 the another fun part is I don't even know how much I zapped and need to point to the ⚡️ to see:)

and stackers won't be able to guess your zapping pattern, triple fun!

tested with Alby too, works great!

20 sats \ 5 replies \ @0xbitcoiner fwd 2 Aug

You could explain how to test it. I activated it but nothing happened. I must be a real nerd :)

141 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 2 Aug

Go to wallet - attach - choose the second option and enable it ( you need to preinstall Alby in the browser )

Empty the SN wallet to a point where you have less than what you want to zap - then Alby pops up and ask your persimmon to zap - set a budget there and done.

232 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 2 Aug

Alby? You have to perform an action that costs more than your custodial balance.

27 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xbitcoiner fwd 2 Aug

Ahh ok! Then the test is for later, I have thousands of sats in SN wallet and I don't want to withdraw it now. When I make a zap that's bigger than my balance, will an envitation be sent to the Alby extension?

174 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 2 Aug

what I did was set the auto withdraw amount lower - emptying the wallet to do the test, easy 😎

111 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 2 Aug

Yep! Attached sending wallets are only used when you don't have enough custodial funds to pay for something.

313 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 2 Aug

Random zaps are like a box of chocolates, never know how much you’re going to get.

Nice!

134 sats \ 1 reply \ @OneOneSeven 2 Aug

I like the random zaps more than I thought I would.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 2 Aug

I had the same experience when I was testing them. I haven't been adventurous enough to switch to them in prod with turbo zaps yet.

93 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 2 Aug

That's a fun addition but I think I will stick with set zap amounts.

95 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner fwd 2 Aug

it works ! :)

42 sats \ 4 replies \ @BlokchainB 2 Aug

Does the alby wallet work on mobile?

50 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 2 Aug

No WebLN requires a browser with an alby browser plugin, or a in-app browser system like Breez.

If you'd like to pay with Alby on mobile, NWC is the way to go.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @BlokchainB 2 Aug

Yall NWC compatible?

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 2 Aug

Yes you can attach an NWC wallet too

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 3 Aug

👀👀

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 2 Aug

I just checked, I like this update.

72 sats \ 27 replies \ @Undisciplined 3 Aug

Can you explain how random and turbo work together?

It's not doing exactly what I expected, which makes me feel like I'm playing with fire.

35 sats \ 26 replies \ @k00b OP 3 Aug

I think it's a random number in your range multiplied by 10^(nth zap-1).

27 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b OP 3 Aug

I think I'd prefer it to be: first zap is a random number N in your range, then N*10^(nth zap-1) for subsequent zaps.

120 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 3 Aug

I like the first one more. If people want random, let them have random.

37 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 3 Aug

Good point.

0 sats \ 22 replies \ @Undisciplined 3 Aug

That's what I expected, but that's not what it's doing. My range is 21-42 and oftentimes the second zap is also in that range, rather than 210-420. One time though, the second zap was between 210 and 420.

Is there a chance it's only scaling the max value on the range?

25 sats \ 21 replies \ @k00b OP 3 Aug

Oh it could be. I'll take a closer look. weareallsatoshi was the mastermind.

192 sats \ 20 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 3 Aug

IIRC it uses a random value in the range as the base before scaling it for turbo tipping, but I could be misremembering.

Edit: I think I didn’t do anything specific for turbo tipping, I just changed how the “base zap” is calculated to use a random value in range if that’s configured, else using your default zap value. From there, it should just follow the existing turbo tipping behavior

100 sats \ 19 replies \ @Undisciplined 3 Aug

I'll keep playing around with it, but something's acting funny. I double zapped you just now and it only did 27 sats. At minimum, you should have gotten 210, if I understand how it's supposed to work. It's especially odd that the second zap was only 5 sats, since that's outside the range I set.

84 sats \ 18 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 3 Aug

I wonder if there’s some delay in determining the “last” zap for turbo tipping. Also yea, being outside the range altogether does not make any sense

38 sats \ 2 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi fwd 3 Aug

Are you also using zap undos?

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132 sats \ 14 replies \ @k00b OP 3 Aug

The problem is the turbo zapping loop.

If the range is 1-100, and the first random zap is 1 sat, and the next random value chosen is 2 sats, we don’t multiply by 10 because that loop only executes if zapN-1 >= zapN.

I’ll patch in a second.

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