0 sats \ 5 replies \ @cameri 26 Aug 2022 \ parent \ on: Do You Think The Bitcoin Community is Streched Over too Many Projects? bitcoin
It doesn't make any sense to me but maybe I'm the dumb one.
Are we really saying that we as a collective should stop building new stuff, stop innovating, and exploring ideas?
That goes against every single startup out there. Heck, it goes against our nature since our survival depends on many many different humans trying out things and seeing what sticks.
Whoever holds this view isn't a builder just a user.
And also risk averse and fear driven because of sEcUrITYYYYyy.
Bitcoin is a layer, and there will be many layers on top, like lightning, which allow Stacker News to exist.
Bitcoin has inspired many other projects that aren't even Bitcoin related but humans creativity and ingenuity has no limits and won't be deterred.
The only limit here is the mindset of "we have too much choice so let's pack up and go home."
Whoever holds this view isn't a builder just a user
So many builders think other builders are wasting their time. Often building is motivated by the idea that the other guy is doing it wrong. Why is there umbrel, citadel os, and start9? Because they each think the others are not doing it right.
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You are right on that.
I'd like to add to what you said:
Considering that just because X project exists does not mean anyone can or wants to contribute to it. Their way or your idea on how to do things may be the reason why you may have or want to go your own way and spin the same thing with just a different color.
I've seen a case of someone contributing to Umbrel, just to have the main devs reject their PR and implement their own sub-par solution. Umbrel is not as open as people think they are so I wouldn't be caught attempting to contribute.
On request from the main developer, I submitted a PR for a project to balance LN channels which I will not name and the same person took my commits and pushed it to his project as if he did the work. I would not consider contributing my time to that either.
Sometimes the best way for a set of individuals is to spin up their own thing and hope it catches up.
Having too much choice is not a real problem, having too little is.
People's creativity shouldn't be hampered by one random guy's idea of what we should and should not build. The market will decide for itself regardless of what we think.
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Are we really saying that we as a collective should stop building new stuff, stop innovating, and exploring ideas?
No. Learn to read, my children learned that at the age of 5. Or maybe you're tech-illiterate and don't know the difference between a program and a protocol.
Whoever holds this view isn't a builder just a user. And also risk averse and fear driven because of sEcUrITYYYYyy
No offense but it sounds like you're a user that joined Bitcoin in 2020 instead of being in the cyber/cypher underground for 20 years. Go ask a LND or CLN dev what they think about the two implementations of the same protocol was a bad idea - No, they will say it's f*cking awesome. Then ask if they should split and make 2 incompatible protocols out of it
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Your extensive use of ad hominems and other fallacies serves to demonstrate the frailty and lack of merit of your argument. You just can't allow anyone to hold a different opinion from yours, can you? You immediately start dispatching insults left and right without addressing the points I've laid out.
I'm willing to be proven wrong but with your attitude and the way you convey yourself it is becoming increasingly hard to get you seriously.
The real waste is this post. Touché.