Maybe we have been for a long time but are just starting to admit it.
I mean, technically there are few true socialist countries. Most allow ownership of the means of production and private property.
But both political parties enact social welfare programs for different groups. I think people are in deep denial about how far the political right has moved towards socialist ideas. But then, I think the conservative movement was led by many "former" communists. So there's that.
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I meant more in a figurative sense rather than a literal sense. To your point western govs keep ballooning in size and scope and influence on the economy and markets regardless of what political stripes the party in power wears. Which is kind of what I was getting at.
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The reason I went down this path is due to something that really concerns me.
I think the definition of socialism has shifted. And because of this there is this false idea that socialism works. The true socialists believe in the destruction of free markets and they are perfectly happy for people to be left in the dark about the bait and switch.
There are countries like Sweden that many Americans think are socialist. Sweden is not. It has a massive welfare state but in some ways has more free markets than the US. They tried socialism in the past and it did not go well. So they rolled it back.
People wonder why so many people are in love with socialism. I think it is because they do not know what it actually is and are being deceived.
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Agree. Many American self proclaimed socialists think the nordic countries are socialist nations.
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I think we perpetrate this thinking by using the slur of communist/socialist politically.
Now, I'm fine with people saying "this idea is socialist". But people call Biden a communist. That's bullshit and doesn't help.
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Yes we need to do better than always arguing in absolutes. Everyone on the left is a commie and everyone on the right is a fascist according to the opposite base.
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Yeah. Its absurd.
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Yep, I agree.
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