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darknet market? what are you talking about? robosats and bisq are exchanges and not offering any kind of products. why are you misleading people here? bisq 2 was released long time ago btw. still all the dnm are using monero. facts.

Robosats and Bisq are 'markets'... in that they are buying and selling capital. They are capital markets.

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Bisq and robosats are DNMs because they are marketplaces on the darknet. They compete directly with other DNMs on products such as cash parcels, gift cards, and currency swaps.

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as I said this is misleading. your point is that lightning transactions were implemented for privacy. but bitcoin on-chain transactions on bisq were available all the time. were is the point? bisq and robosats are exchanges run over tor where you can exchange fiat (bank transfer, vouchers) to bitcoin. the classic darknet markets are selling goods for monero, rarely bitcoin (lack of privacy). they are not exchanging fiat to bitcoin. that's a huge difference.

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lightning transactions were implemented for privacy

I don't think that is why bisq implemented it, I think it is a side effect

the classic darknet markets are selling goods for monero

Many of the same goods sold on other DNMs are also sold on bisq and robosats. Namely, gift cards and cash parcels. The most popular item on silk road 2.0 was Tesco vouchers, not drugs

they are not exchanging fiat to bitcoin

Cash parcels are among the most common things I see on DNMs and that is a form of converting fiat to bitcoin and vice versa

Offers to do crypto swaps are also super common on DNMs

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Darknet markets aren't just for illegal shit on Tor, you acid-soaked fool.

The buying and selling of cash can be an activity performed on platforms which help you maintain your financial privacy. Two of these, Bisq and RoboSats, can be considered darknet markets too.

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Are banks DNM because the simple fact transactions are private?

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Bank transactions are private?

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(1) banks are not marketplaces -- you cannot list goods or services for sale at a bank

(2) I'm not aware of any banks who host hidden tor services or similar to give users access to them

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That's exactly what people mean when they say "Darknet Markets". That's the common understanding.

Sure they can use it your way if they want to confuse whoever they're talking to, but colloquially no one ever refers to DEXs over tor as Darknet Markets...

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