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One Week Using Attached Wallets On SN: Update

2496 sats \ 37 comments \ @siggy47 1 Sep meta

It's been a little more than a week since I switched to external wallets on Stacker News. So far, so good. Beyond a slight delay that is barely noticeable, the experience is more or less identical to that found using the SN wallet.

To recap, here's my setup:

I have the external wallets connected to my Graphene OS Pixel 7.
For zapping I use the NWC connect app from the Alby Hub to send to my own node. I have a channel opened to Stacker News.
For receiving, I use an Alby lightning address linked to my own node.

Here are my observations:

I primarily use my cell phone to access Stacker News, but sometimes I use my laptop for longer posts/newsletters. You need to set up distinct wallet connections to post/zap from each device.
There is sometimes a delay in payment when posting. Once or twice the post failed. It wasn't a big deal. I just tried again and it worked.
You can't dm with the wallet withdraw method.
On 8/30 I got this error while trying to zap a post:

Unexpected error value: [503, "AddInvoiceError", { err: [Error

This seemed to be an isolated event.

Conclusion

There really is no trade-off in performance. The benefits of self custody and decentralization far outweigh the slight inconvenience. You are protecting yourself while at the same time protecting Stacker News from possibly over zealous regulators.

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138 sats \ 9 replies \ @grayruby 1 Sep

Great recap Siggy.

@k00b will you be adding more wallets?

93 sats \ 8 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep

Yep, we'll be adding literally any wallet that we can do one or both of:

request to pay an invoice
request to an invoice to be paid

116 sats \ 7 replies \ @grayruby 1 Sep

That's great. I would like to use the same wallet for lightning login as for external connection.

83 sats \ 6 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep

Which wallet do you use for lightning login?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 1 Sep

Breez

50 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep

Breez doesn't currently give us a way to request it make invoices or pay invoices, but hopefully once they're using Breez SDK we can do this.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 1 Sep

Ok. I can use phoenix.

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 1 Sep

Phoenix doesn't really either, especially sending, but we should be able to let you receive to Phoenix via bolt12 eventually.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Sep

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53 sats \ 0 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 1 Sep

Good to hear you’ve had a smooth transition for the most part!

Unfortunately I ran into an issue with my setup — Alby Hub on StartOS. Haven’t figured out whether the issue is with LND or Bitcoin Core yet. I’m sure I’ll post about it if/when I find a solution. 🤞

53 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bee_Aye 1 Sep

nwc for send and receive is 🤌

53 sats \ 0 replies \ @Carresan 1 Sep

My experience till now is only receiving through WoS and it’s working really well. I still need to set up the sending wallet, but will do.

Thanks for your feedback!

290 sats \ 1 reply \ @Golu 1 Sep

Thank you so much! It's good to see people writing no bullshit content here! TBH, it's my first platform where no garbage is to be seen. I think I need to learn a few more things before I make transition like you did. It's little tecky for me. Nonetheless, if it's done for better privacy, I'll do.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Sep

That's more like a mature Bitcoiner!! You seem to be setting in here.

108 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 1 Sep

It's great review! Thanks! I'm silently following you on this.

73 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 1 Sep

On 8/30 I got this error while trying to zap a post: Unexpected error value: [503, "AddInvoiceError", { err: [Error

I accidentally crashed our node on 8/30 preparing to make the node more resilient ironically.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Sep

I had a feeling it was something like that.

108 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Sep

Short and sweet! A great review! I'm still without it! I'm in a learning mode. I'll definitely use it but with the best option. I know many more such reviews will come and we all will find it easier and easier.

I only doubt that SN will then be open to only those who are technically sound. Won't that affect the adoption of SN?

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheWildHustle 2 Sep

Still need to setup a NWC connection to the SN PWA, but using it on desktop has been unexpectedly smooth. The small channel I have with SN comes in handy....

Hustle would have been content using the SN custodial wallet for small zaps and rewards, but the Albyhub UI/UX was too impressive. Now Hustle one tap zaps his nostr clients from his LND node on Start9......five clients and an extension with 10k sat monthly budgets....

Now Hustle wants some sort of non kyc bitcoin bill pay service with a NWC connection. He wants apps in the Albyhub app store that provide accounting and inheritance services like clams and nunchuk.

Downloaded the alby Dashboard as a PWA for mobile payments......the thing is smooth. Using zeus as well, but connectivity and reliability have always been an issue (Its working well nowadays).

I've been getting direct deposit 100 percent in bitcoin on cash app for over a year, Start9 and Albyhub with NWC and its budgeted app store have the potential to replace my cash app. If I need to pay for something in meat space.....I'll bring my wife.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Sep

Great reply. You've given me some ideas to explore.

43 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 1 Sep

Thanks for sharing. I'll have to get round to setting something like this up.

43 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 1 Sep

I love your sense of irony at the end - possibly overzealous regulators. Haha

43 sats \ 7 replies \ @anon 1 Sep

I'm having trouble anon-zapping you. I think your receiving wallet is not accepting the payment (ie returning the preimage in a timely fashion). Are you using Zeus for receiving by chance?

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Sep

No. I'm using an Alby lightning address. Interesting. When I first set up receiving a few months ago I did use my Zeus address for Stacker News when my wallet reached its limit, but I would not receive the sats until I opened the wallet. This was true even though I was using Zeus connected to my node. Maybe using the LSP it would work? I don't know.

43 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep

That anon was me. Maybe I just wasn't patient enough.

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 OP 1 Sep

That's good to know. I wonder if others are experiencing an issue. I'm watching my received sats come in, and I check for failed transactions in the log, but I won't see them if the zap isn't initiated.

86 sats \ 3 replies \ @TheWildHustle 2 Sep

I resent a 100 sat zap, SN displayed a graphic next to your post that said my zap was unsent.....I clicked it and it sent the zap again with no problem. First time seeing that one.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Sep

Thanks for this information. We need to keep each other informed. I zapped you back just now and there was an unusual pause too. I wonder if it's related?

129 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheWildHustle 2 Sep

That last zap was just as smooth as the custodial option.

Will let you know if any future zaps fail.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Sep

Thanks!

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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep

You can't dm with the wallet withdraw method.

We should be able to provide some "dm" analog for attached wallets at some point.

53 sats \ 1 reply \ @criptopanas 17 Oct

Hi @siggy47, Just some doubts about attaching an external wallet to Stacker News.

I understand that SN will be asking to the users to take full control of their SATS, so every user should attach an external wallet to receive and send ZAPs to post.

Is there a deadline for this?

As you said on this post, the benefit of self custody is the goal and totally agreed with "forcing" users to responsibility of their funds.

Is there a post to see which wallets are compatible with SN?

Gracias!

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 17 Oct

Oh yes, there are many. It's proba ly best to start here: #723218

Good luck. If you run into difficulties just ask questions. So many people will help you, like @supratic, @ek, and many others.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinAbhi 2 Sep

Thanks for sharing your review.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 2 Sep

OK I need to try

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudocarlos 2 Sep

If open a channel to sn then your auto withdrawals always go through even if you have the desired balance set really low