The United States is an outlier in allowing police to deceive suspects, as the practice is prohibited or highly restricted in most peer nations, including England, France, Germany, and Japan.
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205 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Sep
I'm guessing they don't have qualified immunity either.
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44 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 12 Sep
Yep. The discussion of how deception filters through to other aspects of criminal proceedings really hits home. I always took it as a given that the police would lie rather than expose a weakness in the case that would "let the bad guy go free."
They justified it as protecting society from evil.
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43 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Sep
That reminds me of when Robbie Bernstein pointed out that there should be no such thing as "novel" prosecutions. A novel defense is fine, because our whole system is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but a novel prosecution means the state is going beyond the intended meaning of the law.
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36 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 12 Sep
The Fire?
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 12 Sep
The one and only.
aka Covid Jesus
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64 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 12 Sep
There is a perverse silver lining. We know they are allowed to lie, and therefore should always assume they're lying. People in other countries may be fooled into thinking the police are always truthful. No matter what prohibitions or restrictions are in place, the state will change the rules if it wants to badly enough. Better to drop the pretense that police should ever be trusted.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 12 Sep
The problem is that there's an entire copaganda entertainment system in place to make sure most folks don't actually know about the lying, or only see it in the context of situations where the lying captures a rapist or murderer.
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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 12 Sep
That is why they need to be defunded until they understand that everyone has rights.
Half the time charges are made after entrapment.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bature_ 13 Sep
Fiat pays for that to happen. Deal with it.
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