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There's a lot to be said about the pager attacks on Hezbollah today, and it's opened up more questions than answers for me. First of all I think it was messed up that Israel use this kind of attack. You would never be able to tell how many innocent people were using these pagers, and to simply set them off like that is callous at best.
From what I've read Hezbollah decided to "dumb down" their communication network (as in they ditched their smart phones for pagers), as they were too often successfully being tracked. The pagers they bought don't have any GPS tracking as they communicate over radio frequencies (which BTW must be completely exposed to Israeli intel). You'd think being a terrorist (or at least a named terrorist) organization that they might be extra careful with everything they use right? Like checking to see if perhaps there were any explosives inside their devices? I mean surely there must be a secure way to communicate via smart phones with a variety of encrypted apps like signal or simplex? Do they not know about these, or they just don't trust them because they've been developed in the west? Or is Israeli intelligence just about as good as it gets? Either Hezbollah leadership don't know what they're doing or high level surveillance is a greater than we understand.
Bring it back to what it means for us I keep thinking this is like a reminder that we need to continue to check and verify. I often catch myself skipping this step out of convenience. Excuses like it's going to take longer (cause I need to learn how to verify keys for every app/client), I just want the thing now, it's definitely the right website I'm downloading it from so it should be ok. It's just a reminder that we need to be doing this EVERY TIME.
I also keep thinking about a similar attack on a larger scale. Wouldn't it be the ultimate attack on the west if the CCP managed to put an explosive and remotely blow up every IPhone? If no one is verifying then why not?
Stay paranoid.
It's all all a false flag and you are being manipulated...
thank me later for the warning...
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT OP 18 Sep
You're saying it didn't happen?
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No. All electronic devices are Israelis tech... Go figure.
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First of all I think it was messed up that Israel use this kind of attack. You would never be able to tell how many innocent people were using these pagers, and to simply set them off like that is callous at best.
The alternative is airstrikes, which would have killed far more bystanders. Likely tens of thousands.
This is probably the most precisely targeted large scale counter terrorism operation in history. Hardly anyone who wasn't a target died or even was injured. It's a truly remarkable achievement and the fact that Israel isn't getting credited for it just shows that nothing they do will ever be good enough; the opposition to Israel doesn't really believe Jews have a right to exist.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT OP 19 Sep
It's on Hezbollah for letting this happen. They've either gotten lazy or have been corrupted. But to set them off like that knowing 100% that innocent people would be nearby is f$cked up.
I really think that we don't want to normalize this kind of attack as we head into a more divisive world. The iPhone is predominantly used in the west, so why not make that a booby trap? Cars or computer, everything could be one. It changes everything if we need to check and verify all devices entering your country.
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But to set them off like that knowing 100% that innocent people would be nearby is f$cked up.
Every time soldiers in urban areas are taken out by airstrikes we know full well that civilians might be killed too. Yet it's done anyway, because if you don't, they can hide amongst innocents forever.
...and frankly, a lot of the time those "innocents" really aren't that innocent...
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i feel A large-scale attack on technology infrastructure, like disabling or destroying iPhones, could have significant economic and social repercussions, especially considering how integrated these devices are in daily life. While it’s true that some systems rely on trust, there are many verification methods in place to detect anomalies or threats, making it harder for a massive attack to go unnoticed.
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Did you really just prepend 'i feel' to a chatgpt response? lol
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Shoutout to Seed Signer
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Is the state of Israel just trying to bring on WW3 or what? Fuck those guys
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They're trying to get the rocket attacks on northern Israel to stop. A large part of northern Israel has been forced to evacuate due to daily, deadly, rocket attacks from Lebanon. Just the other day a dozen (non-Jewish) Israeli kids were killed in a playground from one of these attacks.
Hezbollah is a deeply evil terrorist organization with the aim of genociding Jews. The world will be a better place when they are exterminated.
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Israel is falling for Chinas strategy to divide The West and conquer.
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WW3 has begun already and the Iran backed attacks on Israel are a major part of it. Without Chinas backing Iran would be a failed state but instead China buys most of Irans oil exports and enables Iran to bypass US/SWIFT sanctions. China gets discounted oil and Iran gets the manufactured goods and Yuan liquidity to maintain and expand its economy and military operations. In a similar way Russia is now also a Chinese state dependent- China buying most of Russias oil and gas and China providing Russia with the majority of manufactured goods required for its internal economy and war machine. China is challenging the US via these proxy wars. China has the ability to keep Russia and Iran viable and now dependent upon its alternative trade payments routes and exports. USA cannot declare war on China - to do so would collapse most US corporates under the Trading with the Enemy Act. WW3 has commenced even if the western MSM and masses are in denial about it.
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Iphones and Androids running Google Playstore are all heavily monitored by state surveillance. In avoiding smartphones Hezbollah were correct as Mossad surely have very close support from US intelligence services. Any Bitcoiner should avoid doing any serious Bitcoin computing on any Google playstore based Android phone or Iphone...they are simply not secure devices with both state actors and hacker having multiple access routes to into them. So using low tech GPS free pagers makes sense for Hezbollah but yes they were caught out and now look tragically incompetent in that they allowed the supply chain of these pagers to be infiltrated by Mossad agents. This is a huge success for Mossad/Israel and a huge blow for Hezbollah and their Iran backers. Unlikely however this ends the senseless endless conflict between these two ideologically religiously opposed groups. Behind Hezbollah stands China who in turn back Iran. Behind Israel stands the US. This is part of the wider proxy war between the US and China which includes the Ukraine conflict and is China effectively challenging US global hegemony.
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Who is protected from criminals?
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how did they simultaneously set off all the explosives? is this a known capability?outside of getting the explosives in each device terrifying that one can remotely trigger thousands of explosives at once.
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They're pagers. They have radios that can easily receive a command to detonate.
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No idea, how they did it.
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How many died? I read 2700 injured
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT OP 18 Sep
Looks like they also put explosives in walkie talkies too.
Why not? Because they don't need to. People opt in to slavery willingly. And the powers that be know this. They can put it all out there and the people will still line up. I trust my intuition. No need to be paranoid. Maybe that's stupid.
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