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They don't provide a node, only LSPs but they are optional. The LSPs might charge a fee but you can open your own channels since you run your own node.
The only option without running your own node is to use a cashu mint and afaik, cashu mints don't charge you.
is SN planning to implement ecash and run a SN mint?
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142 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 24 Sep 2024
No, that would defeat the purpose of going non-custodial.
But we plan to implement NIP-60 which stores cashu token in nostr relays. Then you only need your nostr private keys to access your ecash.
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true, I did not think about that when writing.
we plan to implement NIP-60 which stores cashu token in nostr relays
Wow that will be amazing!
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Thanks 🙏 I asked it because I think a lot of Stackers who don't run their own node, might be irritated for every time they see minimum 1 sat deducted, even if they zap 1 0 or 20 sats to someone. Thanks about cashu, it may be a very good option with low amounts.
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In any case, you will pay network fees unless you run your own node and open a (private) channel to SN.
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And we require a big amount of sats for creating a node? Do we?
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You don't pay for "creating a node", you pay to open channels since it's a bitcoin transaction. The channel can be as big or low as you want, but it will determine how much you can spend and receive. Anything between 100k-1m channel should probably be fine. You can also use that channel to pay for other things.
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If I open a 1m channel, how much can be the fees?
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Onchain fees don't depend on the amount of sats but amount of bytes. Currently, onchain fees are low with 2 sats/vB:
vB means virtual bytes (a special unit for bitcoin transactions) and they calculate with an average transaction size of 140 vB. So you'd pay currently around 280 sats which is about $0.18 to open a channel.
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Thank you so much! 🙏 I'll most probably run my own node. It's not that difficult as I thought it to be. 😊
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I'm not sure how much things have changed since this post, but opening your own channel through Alby Hub is currently charging around 20,000 sats for 1m in liquidity. Seems high, but I don't have a clear reference for these things just yet.