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How do you like to send sats over the Lightning Network?

381 sats \ 26 comments \ @Design_r 27 Sep lightning

The Lightning Network has been changing and trying to work around UX with different implementations of BLIPs and BOLTs.

True every use case is different, which is great that we have so many options, which one do you think is most appropriate, and for what?

Traditional QR code scan12.5%

Send to a LN address29.2%

Share LN invoice string in other medium4.2%

BOLT12 reusable address20.8%

ZAPs over nostr29.2%

Ecash tokens4.2%

24 votes \ poll ended

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121 sats \ 2 replies \ @eroc1990 27 Sep

I chose "Zaps over Nostr", but that's because boosting through Podcasting 2.0 apps is not on this poll. This has been my primary use case for the lightning network to this point through 2.0's value-for-value focus.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

Most of the apps n the Podcasting 2.0 are probably using LNURL (not included above), maybe I'm wrong! Thanks for bringing it up and sharing this option.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @eroc1990 27 Sep

I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word for it lol. I know Fountain has its own wallet it managed, and Podverse leverages Alby, since those are the two I've used. Others I don't 100% know.

73 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 27 Sep

I'd like to see LND projects adopt bolt 12

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

It maybe will come soon... who knows. BOLT12 is definitely a marketing advantage CLN have.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @south_korea_ln 27 Sep

Another option.

Browser extension for better UX. Might use any of the methods above as long as it obfuscates it from the user.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

Browser extension only work on PCs and yes, most of them are using LN invoice strings or LNURL (not in the list)

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Sep

All but bolt12 but that’s because I run LND

79 sats \ 1 reply \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

maybe it will come to LND one day?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Sep

I think so bolt 12 was merged to the spec

42 sats \ 3 replies \ @justin_shocknet 27 Sep

NIP-69

17 sats \ 1 reply \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

Man thanks for all your work and knowleedge sharing, this video is particularly interesting!

is NIP-69 already in the list under "ZAPS UNDER NOSTR"? Or are the current "zaps" using LNURL atm, and you're proposing this NIP-69, that btw, the nip number itself explains everything LOL

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 27 Sep

I suppose technically yes because as you point out Zap's currently are using LNURL, so I guess that makes NIP-69 the only way to actually Zap over Nostr...

... just wait till you see NIP-68 ;)

We published a bridge for NIP-69 upgrades to Lightning Addresses too: https://github.com/shocknet/bridgelet

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 27 Sep bot

https://xcancel.com/shocknet_justin/status/1833602834081988725

42 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Sep

why not about all of them? There are so many use cases for LN that only one method will not be enough or fit for all aspects. Also you missed keysend. A very important one. In regards of "static" reusable codes, we also have the AMP invoices, that were around waaaay before any BOLT12... I wonder why did you ignore that.

22 sats \ 3 replies \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

Yes, indeed. I thought was a good way to get what stackers use more. Keysend dam... Forgot about that! it' great, so underevaluated unfortunately, and should be used and implemented more across products and services.

42 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Sep

Unfortunately...

Keysend is expected to be deprecated in favor of a more well-developed spontaneous payment solution like Offers or AMP

Source: https://github.com/lightning/blips/blob/master/blip-0003.md#keysend-drawbacks

Also a good question here: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/100271/is-lightning-offers-an-improvement-over-key-send

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

so is AMP another one that should be in the list above?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 27 Sep

definitely yes. I use it myself several times.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @AJ1992 27 Sep

Reusable addresses are what I use most often and are easiest for me personally. Second would be a lightning @ address but about half of the platforms I'm using lightning for/on don't support that.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

Do they not support reusable addresses nor LN addresses? What exactly are the platforms not supporting it?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 27 Sep

Cwallet only lets you withdraw to an old school invoice. And deposits are done via bolt 12 but they expire after a certain timeframe, which is really odd. Stacker.news also doesn't let you send to a reusable static bolt 12 deposit address and I've been advocating for this for a while now.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @BTCLNAT 27 Sep

I don't favor any specific form. I think they are all valid at the appropriate time. SO ALL OF THEM

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Design_r OP 27 Sep

True, most of them have really specific use case. Which one do you find yourself using more often?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bitcoiner1 27 Sep

It depends on why are you sending SATs.

For donations, the best way is to a lightning address. For comercial use, the best way is to pay an invoice.

I've never used ecash...not sure about the use case of it yet.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Design_r OP 29 Sep

like gift cards, tokens redeemable for sats #397764